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slightlv

(6,203 posts)
6. I don't know that she's consciously punting,
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 05:56 PM
Apr 2025

but I don't think she.. or any other judge in this country, no matter how high in the hierarchy... has ANY idea how to deal with this lawless administration. If they did, they'd be working with lawyers to file charges of treason and immediate removal from office on trump, miller, his cabinet, musk, and many others (including at least SOME) elected officials.

Our entire constitution and legal world revolves around principles, processes, and standards. One of those standards is that everyone agrees on the outline of these. Up until now, men (because it's mostly been their domain) have been honorable enough to conduct themselves within the limits of these rules. Yes, some stretched them to get the lawless off free, but overall, the processes held.

Because of complacency or apathy or expectations, no judge has had to think of what the other side of this entails and what they would be required to do. It's like the military being given an unlawful order. Do you not think and just go with your training? Or do you actually act like a human, engage brain and critical thinking, and determine how best to achieve the objective?

I'd bet our law schools don't teach this kind of thing in class. The old adage we gave the Bush administration is appropriate here: "No one could have thought..." In fact, I think it's more than doubly appropriate to these times. The only way to bring Garcia home (in a seat or a body bag) will be by ACTION from the court... not just stern words. But our judges haven't been taught when and where and how this is appropriate, such that it's as second nature as filing a pleading or something. I'm not excusing them. They're suppose to have superior brain power and critical thinking skills... and really, how hard is this to see if we numbnuts behind our keyboard can see it? (gryn). Do it... dare trump to get SCOTUS involved once again... and demand the SCOTUS speak in plain language to the people of the United States... not some high flying legalese. Make them choose one side or the other on risk of losing their positions, either actually or through threat of force and harrassment.

I can't see how we'll hit any larger crisis point in the United States. True, trump will push the boundaries even further once he gets away with disappearing Garcia. But this is a certain control point for him. Fight him now, make him back himself up, and then take the fall when it's shown to be completely unconstitutional in any number of amendments. If not, prepare to be disappeared. I figure it won't take that long before DOGE has all the state election registrations and will start disappearing everyone who declared "Democrat"...

They've already defied the damn order HereForTheParty Apr 2025 #1
I don't know that she's consciously punting, slightlv Apr 2025 #6
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that Judges can file charges for treason... Dan Apr 2025 #9
If the lawyers refuse to obey the judge's order, she should have the marshals arrest the lawyers questionseverything Apr 2025 #26
WH-13 Marvin Jones Apr 2025 #27
Not punting at all... regnaD kciN Apr 2025 #7
I have a question: Wouldn't F47 be able to invoke his pardon authority because the contempt is criminal in2herbs Apr 2025 #32
She's clearly setting up a rock solid defense for a contempt order which Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #10
It's too bad, as I feel this is really a matter of life or death. slightlv Apr 2025 #20
I'd rather Xinis be thorough than give the USSC an opportunity to refuse to rule due to some loophole. nt in2herbs Apr 2025 #33
Well JBTaurus83 Apr 2025 #2
Judge: blah, blah, blah, blah. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #3
With absolutely no enforcement agency willing to act, these edicts are an embarrassment. Magoo48 Apr 2025 #11
She could at least act like she gives a damn. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Apr 2025 #4
Pete Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #5
We are in an endless loop of lawlessness and crap with this criminal regime until something big breaks. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #13
So put the DOJ attorneys in jail for contempt. At least at that point if the USSC does not uphold in2herbs Apr 2025 #8
Bondi is a miserable, hateful, Trumphugger with Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2025 #31
Empty words until Warpy Apr 2025 #14
Jail for contempt? Would it help? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #16
it wont be the lawyers in jail for contemp moonshinegnomie Apr 2025 #22
First, all the administration's lawyers are playing catch up Warpy Apr 2025 #29
Agree, without consequences, a contempt charge is meaningless. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #30
How is he supposed to get to a port of entry from prison? Bayard Apr 2025 #15
Okay send them to jail if they cant produce by april 23 SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #17
One thing i take as a positive, is the fact that they KNOW someone has to show up in front of the judge. bluestarone Apr 2025 #18
Issue a subpoena melm00se Apr 2025 #19
So depositions in 8 days and then moniss Apr 2025 #21
This thread has me dumbfounded it really does. William769 Apr 2025 #23
I think we need to start recall elections for vulnerable members of Congress. 33taw Apr 2025 #24
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #25
My question: why aren't the legislatures in blue states passing legislation to increase the number of in2herbs Apr 2025 #34
If you are talking about "Congressional" (federal) Representatives BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #35
gamesmanship, no, they have flat told you to go pound sand, period. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #28
The Justice Department files notice that it is appealing Judge Xinis's April 10 amended order LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #36
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