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slightlv

(5,602 posts)
6. I don't know that she's consciously punting,
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 05:56 PM
Apr 15

but I don't think she.. or any other judge in this country, no matter how high in the hierarchy... has ANY idea how to deal with this lawless administration. If they did, they'd be working with lawyers to file charges of treason and immediate removal from office on trump, miller, his cabinet, musk, and many others (including at least SOME) elected officials.

Our entire constitution and legal world revolves around principles, processes, and standards. One of those standards is that everyone agrees on the outline of these. Up until now, men (because it's mostly been their domain) have been honorable enough to conduct themselves within the limits of these rules. Yes, some stretched them to get the lawless off free, but overall, the processes held.

Because of complacency or apathy or expectations, no judge has had to think of what the other side of this entails and what they would be required to do. It's like the military being given an unlawful order. Do you not think and just go with your training? Or do you actually act like a human, engage brain and critical thinking, and determine how best to achieve the objective?

I'd bet our law schools don't teach this kind of thing in class. The old adage we gave the Bush administration is appropriate here: "No one could have thought..." In fact, I think it's more than doubly appropriate to these times. The only way to bring Garcia home (in a seat or a body bag) will be by ACTION from the court... not just stern words. But our judges haven't been taught when and where and how this is appropriate, such that it's as second nature as filing a pleading or something. I'm not excusing them. They're suppose to have superior brain power and critical thinking skills... and really, how hard is this to see if we numbnuts behind our keyboard can see it? (gryn). Do it... dare trump to get SCOTUS involved once again... and demand the SCOTUS speak in plain language to the people of the United States... not some high flying legalese. Make them choose one side or the other on risk of losing their positions, either actually or through threat of force and harrassment.

I can't see how we'll hit any larger crisis point in the United States. True, trump will push the boundaries even further once he gets away with disappearing Garcia. But this is a certain control point for him. Fight him now, make him back himself up, and then take the fall when it's shown to be completely unconstitutional in any number of amendments. If not, prepare to be disappeared. I figure it won't take that long before DOGE has all the state election registrations and will start disappearing everyone who declared "Democrat"...

They've already defied the damn order HereForTheParty Apr 15 #1
I don't know that she's consciously punting, slightlv Apr 15 #6
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think that Judges can file charges for treason... Dan Apr 15 #9
If the lawyers refuse to obey the judge's order, she should have the marshals arrest the lawyers questionseverything Apr 16 #26
WH-13 Marvin Jones Apr 16 #27
Not punting at all... regnaD kciN Apr 15 #7
I have a question: Wouldn't F47 be able to invoke his pardon authority because the contempt is criminal in2herbs Apr 16 #32
She's clearly setting up a rock solid defense for a contempt order which Wiz Imp Apr 15 #10
It's too bad, as I feel this is really a matter of life or death. slightlv Apr 15 #20
I'd rather Xinis be thorough than give the USSC an opportunity to refuse to rule due to some loophole. nt in2herbs Apr 16 #33
Well JBTaurus83 Apr 15 #2
Judge: blah, blah, blah, blah. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #3
With absolutely no enforcement agency willing to act, these edicts are an embarrassment. Magoo48 Apr 15 #11
She could at least act like she gives a damn. Irish_Dem Apr 15 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Apr 15 #4
Pete Iamscrewed Apr 15 #5
We are in an endless loop of lawlessness and crap with this criminal regime until something big breaks. OMGWTF Apr 15 #13
So put the DOJ attorneys in jail for contempt. At least at that point if the USSC does not uphold in2herbs Apr 15 #8
Bondi is a miserable, hateful, Trumphugger with Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 16 #31
Empty words until Warpy Apr 15 #14
Jail for contempt? Would it help? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 15 #16
it wont be the lawyers in jail for contemp moonshinegnomie Apr 15 #22
First, all the administration's lawyers are playing catch up Warpy Apr 16 #29
Agree, without consequences, a contempt charge is meaningless. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 16 #30
How is he supposed to get to a port of entry from prison? Bayard Apr 15 #15
Okay send them to jail if they cant produce by april 23 SSJVegeta Apr 15 #17
One thing i take as a positive, is the fact that they KNOW someone has to show up in front of the judge. bluestarone Apr 15 #18
Issue a subpoena melm00se Apr 15 #19
So depositions in 8 days and then moniss Apr 15 #21
This thread has me dumbfounded it really does. William769 Apr 16 #23
I think we need to start recall elections for vulnerable members of Congress. 33taw Apr 16 #24
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Apr 16 #25
My question: why aren't the legislatures in blue states passing legislation to increase the number of in2herbs Apr 16 #34
If you are talking about "Congressional" (federal) Representatives BumRushDaShow Apr 16 #35
gamesmanship, no, they have flat told you to go pound sand, period. republianmushroom Apr 16 #28
The Justice Department files notice that it is appealing Judge Xinis's April 10 amended order LetMyPeopleVote Apr 16 #36
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