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TBF

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58. I agree - and it boggles the mind that democrats

Fri Jul 10, 2026, 12:47 PM

Jul 10

don't challenge these results. I was livid that Kamala headed off to Hawaii without saying a word. I will never believe that Trump won every swing state, especially with the way the votes shifted so quickly in each one. And even with the Russian interference, Hillary would've won with Bernie as VP.

The one thing we need above all is secure elections. I don't believe we'll have that until Citizens United is overruled (to take out the PAC money), and the machines are fortified. IDK the best way, I'm not a computer expert either. Perhaps we go back to handwritten votes that are videotaped when counted. There has to be a way to secure things, because Republicans cheat whenever they can get away with it.

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If you sit this one out ( Joy Reid on Platner ) [View all] 4bonhoffer Jul 10 OP

Kamala Harris won the election gab13by13 Jul 10 #1

Um. NO, she did NOT ! stopdiggin Jul 10 #11

Who discredited it? gab13by13 Jul 10 #15

I am a suspicious type, Scubamatt Jul 10 #27

I wish that Bob Casey had called for an audit, gab13by13 Jul 10 #36

Unfortunately, there is hard proof, but nothing was done. ms.pamela Jul 10 #70

I fault Garland for not being aggressive and quick enough wnylib Jul 10 #77

I fault him for being complicit n/t blue_jay Jul 10 #78

Word! yellow dahlia Jul 10 #89

lol starlink fujiyamasan Saturday #98

"electronic manipulation with the voting machines utilizing low flying Starlink satellites." lol EX500rider Saturday #99

virtually EVERYONE that isn't/wasn't stopdiggin Jul 10 #28

Not true ITAL Jul 10 #31

Apples and oranges, that's not what I posted. gab13by13 Jul 10 #37

If every state shifted right ITAL Jul 10 #43

There were surges for Trump later in the day on election day gab13by13 Jul 10 #47

No there weren't ITAL Jul 10 #48

Obama won because Anonymous unhacked Ohio. ananda Jul 10 #73

Anomalies aren't proof Kaleva Jul 10 #74

If voting machines "accidentally"... Chemical Bill Jul 10 #85

True. And it has happened over and over again. BComplex Jul 10 #86

Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Jul 10 #87

Thank you Lategame Jul 10 #25

Did Al Gore lose or did the Supreme Court pick the president? gab13by13 Jul 10 #39

Al Gore lost his home state of Tennessee! progressoid Jul 10 #52

Two things can be true at the same time. nt TBF Jul 10 #56

Nader lost his home state of Connecticut DemocracyForever Jul 10 #63

Gore won. Has nothing to do with Tennessee MadameButterfly Jul 10 #71

No comparison between 2000 and 2024 DemocracyForever Jul 10 #61

Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Jul 10 #91

... TBF Jul 10 #59

Congratulations on your 13th post questionseverything Jul 10 #76

Oh please! T💩p and Eloon fking BRAGGED about stealing the election. OMGWTF Jul 10 #45

Kamala did win. Trump said they messed with the "computers". Elon Musk said they BComplex Jul 10 #18

Do you usually believe that Trump and Musk statements are truthful? MichMan Jul 10 #40

I do. n/t returnee Jul 10 #79

She did not. This is conspiracy theory BS and should not be allowed in this forum. beaglelover Jul 10 #41

Agree 100% SCantiGOP Jul 10 #46

That's not BS, and silencing people is what should not be "allowed" in this forum. BComplex Jul 10 #88

Silencing people doesn't help. BComplex Saturday #97

No she did not. Please stop posting this election denialism CT as you are Celerity Jul 10 #55

So you don't remember all the bomb threats? All the purging of voters? BComplex Jul 10 #57

The CT pushers I am referring to are focusing on some grand scheme (often invoking Musk or some other techno villian) Celerity Jul 10 #66

It scares me how many people believe our elections are secure. BComplex Jul 10 #84

I absolutely stand by calling specific parts of it CT. For example 'This Will Hold' is a crackpot WUM (wind up merchant) Celerity Jul 10 #90

Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Jul 10 #93

Maybe Kamala did pursue a recount because her handlers and the strategists told her not to. yellow dahlia Jul 10 #92

Republicans have won by cheating for decades. Chemical Bill Jul 10 #81

I don't think anyone here is going to sit out RandySF Jul 10 #2

Yes. We need a candidate who can win in swing-states and R+5 states... QueerDuck Jul 10 #5

So far today I've seen EYESORE 9001 Jul 10 #3

It doesn't inspire progressive Democrats does it gab13by13 Jul 10 #8

Thank you MIButterfly Jul 10 #4

Democrats won't be staying home and SocialDemocrat61 Jul 10 #6

Gore won, Kerry won gab13by13 Jul 10 #9

I wish I could say you're wrong PatSeg Jul 10 #32

I agree - and it boggles the mind that democrats TBF Jul 10 #58

Indeed RetiredParatrooper Jul 10 #7

I understand your anger, but we have to find ways to bring in the independent voters FakeNoose Jul 10 #10

When 'people decide to stay home' .. stopdiggin Jul 10 #14

No ... it happened when some people decided they couldn't vote for a black woman FakeNoose Jul 10 #16

Nope angrychair Jul 10 #35

Joy has lost her everloving mind. F*ck her nonsensical BS. She can sit her ass at home but me and EVERYONE I know The_REAL_Ecumenist Jul 10 #12

At least Donna wrote a sort of mea culpa book about what went on. gab13by13 Jul 10 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author state of stupid Jul 10 #23

I lived in New York Icanthinkformyself Jul 10 #13

Please explain the Joy Reid reference johnnyplankton Jul 10 #19

Thank you. I have no clue what people are talking about. Joy Reid??? Amaryllis Jul 10 #20

Here Pompoy Jul 10 #26

here eShirl Jul 10 #24

Here it is Cirsium Jul 10 #30

Thank you for posting PatSeg Jul 10 #33

How so? angrychair Jul 10 #42

Bellows and Jackson are progressive Quiet Em Jul 10 #50

I think she is just making a point angrychair Jul 10 #51

Her point is premature. The leading candidates are progressive. Quiet Em Jul 10 #53

The conundrum Cirsium Jul 10 #54

I'm not sure what you think I said PatSeg Jul 10 #68

If I misunderstood angrychair Jul 10 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 10 #94

Anyone who doesn't think things can get worse can't think. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 10 #21

Here, Here! Scubamatt Jul 10 #22

It's worse than being a Republican... Joinfortmill Jul 10 #29

I am glad the Joy Reid is no longer on MS NOW LetMyPeopleVote Jul 10 #34

Yet another post that attacks progressives angrychair Jul 10 #38

"Sit out the election to teach Democrats a lesson" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 10 #72

Ok angrychair Jul 10 #75

You are so wrong on just about everything Pompoy Jul 10 #96

What Joy Reid said was wrong, was defeatist, gab13by13 Jul 10 #44

Terrible Advice dlk Jul 10 #49

Another woman Akakoji Jul 10 #60

What are you talking about? Quiet Em Jul 10 #62

Regrettably now that we live in this new maga/djt/fox reality. Snackshack Jul 10 #64

WTF is wrong with her?? She's DEAD to me. She's another Sarandon. Another Nina Turner... QueerDuck Jul 10 #65

Dems hurt my feelings, WAAAH WAAAH, I'm not playing anymore WAAAH ImNotGod Jul 10 #67

Agreed. I voted for Michael Dukakis, involved in ny case with... NNadir Jul 10 #80

Right? Staying home doesn't negate your VOTE. It only means you didn't cast a ballot. Beartracks Jul 10 #82

Perhaps last chance. Vote yea or nea. NT You want a democratic republic? warmfeet Jul 10 #83

People want change. It's pretty simple. We either make that KPN Jul 10 #95