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WhiskeyGrinder

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1. As someone who has contempt for police, would like to see the party move to the left, etc., I want to add that it is

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extremely frustrating that the consultant class has found fertile ground to till on the left. The idea that working class markers + saying the right things = A Candidate for the wider party is bad news for everyone. It's insulting to the working class and should be at least a yellow flag to the party as a whole. It bypasses the deeply important work of organizing, building a bench and a community, and networking that buoys a candidate and strengthens a party. There's no shortcuts to winning, and consultants are the ones desperately trying to find a magic wand.

It wasn't just centrists who were against this guy from Day One, is what I'm saying.

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Platner: Astro-Turfed Authenticity [View all] QueerDuck Wednesday OP

As someone who has contempt for police, would like to see the party move to the left, etc., I want to add that it is WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #1

Indeed... a bad fit from the beginning. QueerDuck Wednesday #2

I think we need more information. yardwork Wednesday #11

Increasingly, the consultants and activists groups are doing the vetting. Parties don't have the money, time or WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #16

Well, there's a big problem right there if searches are farmed out to consulting firms. yardwork Wednesday #62

I need some answers. Like who were these the people doing the veting? What's the source of your bio of Platner? flashman13 Wednesday #36

Post removed Post removed Wednesday #41

Do you trust Lawrence O'Donnell mcar Wednesday #68

I do. That was a great segment. QueerDuck Wednesday #72

Yes, they weren't excited about their other options. LisaL Wednesday #3

"Too boring" ... The danger of demanding a political soulmate. QueerDuck Wednesday #7

We haven't dodged a bullet because he has to step down. LisaL Wednesday #8

True. I'm hoping that calmer and rational thought prevails... QueerDuck Wednesday #9

I'm hoping that his wife or someone else he trusts spooky3 Wednesday #29

They just announced on ms now Lifeafter70 Friday #77

It wasn't just the "vetters" (whoever they are) who were OK with Platner's flaws Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #4

And some of the people still are. LisaL Wednesday #5

It would be difficult to get an indictment without physical evidence Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #10

Her testimony is considered evidence. LisaL Wednesday #13

Since it's a felony, it would have to go to a grand jury to get an indictment Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #15

Grand Jury just indicted a supposed pool vandal. LisaL Wednesday #17

They also indicted Comey and Tish James Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #19

E.Jean Carroll won her case. Her evidence sufficed, and spooky3 Wednesday #30

That was a civil suit, where the burden of proof is far lower Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #33

True, but my point still stands. spooky3 Wednesday #34

And my point still stands Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #42

You are correct Lifeafter70 Friday #78

In this twisted world, it only depends on the DA in question mdbl Wednesday #27

That's just the thing... it appears to me that their job was not to vet, but to scrub and polish... QueerDuck Wednesday #12

whops. And all the scrub and Cha Friday #79

A campaign strategist can make or break you. LeftInTX Wednesday #50

Absolutely Good Work QueerDuck (Thank You) ahnakneemoose Wednesday #6

Isn't it odd that most of we Democrats doubted Platner's honesty and authenticity from the beginning... Escape Wednesday #14

We can't toss him. LisaL Wednesday #18

I hope he doesn't step down. BComplex Wednesday #45

The candidate's own actions tell a different story. QueerDuck Wednesday #65

Yet they keep winning elections and have a devoted cult mdbl Wednesday #28

Populist Them (establishment elites) vs Us (The People, the working class). betsuni Wednesday #20

Only working class white men mcar Wednesday #26

"What you're talking about is identity politics. We are so proud that for the first time we have a judge betsuni Wednesday #53

... mcar Wednesday #56

Platner posted a few years ago that "Black people don't tip" MichMan Wednesday #66

Lawrence was great on Platner on the Last Word LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #21

Yes... that was excellent. QueerDuck Wednesday #24

Thank you for this information Progressive dog Wednesday #22

Like many, I was leery of him from the beginning, PatSeg Wednesday #23

Yes. There was a lot of bullying and attempts to silence critics. This was coming from his campaign... QueerDuck Wednesday #25

If you spoke out you were deemed a traitor to "the cause." It just wasn't coming from his campaign, it Raftergirl Wednesday #39

Exactly PatSeg Wednesday #40

I think Bernie's endorsement propelled him. boston bean Wednesday #31

You're absolutely correct. QueerDuck Wednesday #35

Hey, if Platner was good enough for Bernie Sanders, then he was certainly good enough for DFW Yesterday #84

One thing about Platner that has not been mentioned in this thread -- he's a very talented speaker. He also gives good Fil1957 Wednesday #32

I agree. Nt spooky3 Wednesday #37

That is what caused me to brush aside my misgivings MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #46

Spot on. Charisma is exactly why rigorous and honest vetting is vital. QueerDuck Wednesday #67

You would've hated Abraham Lincoln Sympthsical Wednesday #38

There is a vast difference between standard marketing and material fraud. QueerDuck Wednesday #48

Seriously. So many politicians do this. Sympthsical Wednesday #49

A simple misunderstanding of terms. QueerDuck Wednesday #51

Swalwell had institutional vetting Sympthsical Wednesday #55

I still can't past the Nazi tattoo! And he didn't get rid of it until after it was made public. LeftInTX Wednesday #58

There's so much faux hand-wringing about this Sympthsical Wednesday #61

His strategist could have dumped him early on. It happens. It wasn't his idea to run. LeftInTX Wednesday #64

What a fighter! MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #69

Lincoln was self taught and grew up poor Kaleva Wednesday #52

Absolutely Sympthsical Wednesday #54

It was his performance at the Lincoln Douglass debates that garnered him national fame Kaleva Friday #73

Yes, but we're talking about campaign personas Sympthsical Friday #74

Interesting! I've never heard about that Kaleva Friday #75

Totally off topic but a neat anecdote you might appreciate given your obvious knowledge about Abraham Lincoln. Jedi Guy Yesterday #80

Ok, but Abe the Shingle Splitter is not nearly as catchy Sympthsical Yesterday #81

Dude, that's so cool! Jedi Guy Yesterday #82

Most lawyers back then didn't attend law school Stacey Grove Yesterday #83

True but Lincoln didn't serve as an apprentice Kaleva 17 hrs ago #85

Actually a lot of that information on his background karynnj Wednesday #43

This is the worst dodged bullet since Trump's ear. mr715 Wednesday #44

Agreed MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #47

Note to self... "do not read anything from mr715 with food in my mouth" QueerDuck Wednesday #59

Never gets old! MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #70

You are correct Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #57

It wasn't a swastika, it was a SS totenkopf. MichMan Wednesday #60

German or Nazi military history I will not get in the weeds with Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #63

Actually it looked like what it was, a Nazi SS Deaths Head tattoo EX500rider Wednesday #71

When they show you who they are, believe them. SheltieLover Friday #76

The Tea Party wasn't grassroots either, but Justice Democrats/Our Revolution types believe it was. betsuni 17 hrs ago #86