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jeffreyi

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22. Heads I win, tails you lose.

Wed Jun 17, 2026, 08:47 AM

14 hrs ago

Yours truly, Iran.

But what did anybody expect from this absolute clown show of incompetence and squandering, of human life, our tax dollars, everything we supposedly stand for.

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Full Text of the 14 point agreement with Iran [View all] Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago OP

It's insane Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #1

Appreciations (and) wyn borkins 15 hrs ago #5

Trump surrendered. sop 3 hrs ago #76

I like "The Islamic Republic of Iran REITERATES that it will never produce nuclear weapons" Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #11

Yes, total victory for Iran, far better than Obama's deal. As I posted elsewhere, one meme sums it up... thesquanderer 13 hrs ago #28

IANAL but I read a lot of contracts. This feels like the first draft was written by the Iranians. CincyDem 15 hrs ago #2

Or maybe written by Putin. (n/t) thesquanderer 13 hrs ago #33

An absolute complete capitulation. Unbelievable! boston bean 15 hrs ago #3

Remember how big a sticking point the sanctions were in Obama's deal Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #7

It wasn't Obama's deal, stop laying the JPCOA solely on him gab13by13 14 hrs ago #14

Either way Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #16

Why always 14 points and will the Senate reject them as they did for Woodrow Wilson? Ponietz 15 hrs ago #4

WTAF!!! Phoenix61 15 hrs ago #6

Simply stunning Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #9

How can the US speak for the UNSC and the IAEA? maxsolomon 8 hrs ago #68

This is not good for Israel, and it is Netanyahu's own fault. everyonematters 15 hrs ago #8

The Iran hawks are going to lose their minds Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #10

It's so bad it's embarrassing Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #12

The Iranians were right to seek it Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #21

Trump met none of his prewar objectives, and he is providing enormous financial concessions to Tehran. sop 2 hrs ago #78

I read #1 and quit reading the rest gab13by13 14 hrs ago #13

Trump talking out his ass again Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #15

The ONLY reason the U.S. agreed to this completely one-sided MOU YodaMom2 10 hrs ago #57

Probably true Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #61

When Iran says USA, does it include Isreal? Those bombs say USA on them. dem4decades 13 hrs ago #37

Hello, gab13by13 14 hrs ago #17

Yeah, who is going to pay Farmer-Rick 13 hrs ago #31

Lokk in the mirror, it's you and me. dem4decades 13 hrs ago #39

Exactly Farmer-Rick 13 hrs ago #46

the 300b is "financing". maxsolomon 8 hrs ago #70

Here's a link to the full text: EarlG 14 hrs ago #18

I guarantee that Iran isn't going to allow ships to pass through Hormuz without its permission. gab13by13 14 hrs ago #19

Tells me Iran was dug in and ready to continue as is indefinitely Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #20

Bingo, gab13by13 14 hrs ago #25

Heads I win, tails you lose. jeffreyi 14 hrs ago #22

I think it's so bad because Trump wants to punish the world Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #24

IMO, this agreement to negotiate later gab13by13 14 hrs ago #23

Not even sure that will work Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #26

What are the specifics people want added? Orangenero 14 hrs ago #27

Inspectors for 1 Johnny2X2X 13 hrs ago #29

The very 1st point, the ending of the war in Lebanon gab13by13 13 hrs ago #32

Could be something to that Johnny2X2X 13 hrs ago #36

The Gulf States were big losers also gab13by13 13 hrs ago #30

I wonder if Qatar will ask for the return of their oversized jet? RainCaster 13 hrs ago #35

This is the most flaccid agreement I've ever seen RainCaster 13 hrs ago #34

The ONLY white flag in this, belongs to the US! 70sEraVet 13 hrs ago #38

To summarize: SamuelAdams 13 hrs ago #40

Yeah and whats this "Investing in Iran" BS I keep reading? Trump going to build hotels there Bengus81 13 hrs ago #42

Sanctions relief includes 24 billion dollars of frozen Iranian money gab13by13 13 hrs ago #44

Getting a load of shrink wrap ready for those pallets of CASH Trump? Bengus81 13 hrs ago #41

'Produce' is not the same as 'Buy', 'Acquire', 'Trade for' Scalded Nun 13 hrs ago #43

Seems like a good deal for Iran Deminpenn 10 hrs ago #58

Nowhere is an inspection regime mentioned... appmanga 13 hrs ago #45

I cant see Congress agreeing to 300 billion Johonny 12 hrs ago #47

Is this a joke? This has to be a joke.... Ol Janx Spirit 12 hrs ago #48

It may be built to fail Johnny2X2X 12 hrs ago #49

That's entirely plausible--and Occam's Razor would also say yes.... Ol Janx Spirit 12 hrs ago #53

Point 1... Bibi says no and continues to bomb Lebanon mountain grammy 12 hrs ago #50

And one of Iran's strategic moves comes to fruition... paleotn 11 hrs ago #55

Netanyahu's forces in Lebanon are getting so lit up by the fiber optic drones Prairie Gates 10 hrs ago #59

I hope so.. mountain grammy 10 hrs ago #60

Israel is not a signatory to this, even though they were one of the parties that launched the war. Nevertheless... Martin Eden 12 hrs ago #51

Yeah Johnny2X2X 12 hrs ago #52

Art of the Deal? More like a Squeal. Martin Eden 12 hrs ago #54

Slightly conditional surrender to Iran Progressive dog 11 hrs ago #56

You remember Trump's demand for unconditional surrender? Sure looks like conditions apply. tclambert 10 hrs ago #62

Point #1 will be violated by Netanyahu within the week by attacking Lebanon. Just watch. Wednesdays 10 hrs ago #63

donnie, the toddler, got his ass handed to him. republianmushroom 10 hrs ago #64

Where's the part that says Iran gives Trump a trophy for most bestest peacemaker? tclambert 10 hrs ago #65

Totally nailed down that coveted Islamic Republican Guard Peace Prize Johnny2X2X 8 hrs ago #67

The MOU is mainly saying they will talk LogDog75 9 hrs ago #66

LOL, the administration panicked and released the exact same 14 points with a few sentences added to try to make it look Johnny2X2X 8 hrs ago #69

But it's actually worse! Johnny2X2X 8 hrs ago #71

This will be scuttled before it's signed. cab67 6 hrs ago #72

AI analysis- Obama deal vs Trump deal TalenaGor 5 hrs ago #73

I never want to hear again... COL Mustard 3 hrs ago #74

Probably $450B Johnny2X2X 3 hrs ago #75

Standard contract "shall" language is missing. Who wrote #4? underpants 2 hrs ago #77

TRUMP LOST WE PAY JoihInMableton 51 min ago #79

TRUMP WON WE PAY JoihInMableton 35 min ago #80

"while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion" BlueWaveNeverEnd 34 min ago #81

And He Signed It at the Palace of Versailles, no less. James48 22 min ago #82