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H2O Man

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21. There are some
Fri May 22, 2026, 04:34 PM
May 22

real horror stories in NYS. Some make the news cycle, then are dropped. Most are never reported on.

I think I've told you about when my younger son applied some years ago to work at a prison for youth. When checking his references, a friend mentioned he was even-tempered, and a state Golden Gloves champion. He was hired for one of those two reasons. He went through the training, including restraints. But on his first night on the floor, he witnessed two guards beat up an inmate. He tried to step in, saying that was not how they were trained to handle situations.

His co-workers laughed, and said he "would learn" how it was actually done. Due to the brutal nature he continued to witness, he would resign about ten days later. The next week, those guards beat a kid to death. Of course the state investigated, and ruled that it was the dead kid's fault. There have been similar incidents since, including perhaps the best known happened near Rome, above Utica.

I should add that the current lack of staffing -- plus the nature of most people doing that job -- has created a powder keg. The difference between a lot of guards and inmates is the guards get to go home, often after a double-shift. The deputy to shot my cousin & his son a decade ago, to express his frustration with the boy driving the speed limit, comes to mind. Although legally drunk before noon, he was in a hurry to buy more beer. And he had a history of being intoxicated on the job, as well as being fired from at least two other jobs for being drunk and a bully. Indeed, he had a history of threatening two other drivers with his gun, and of shooting over his teenage neighbors when he was annoyed at something or another.

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Hurricane [View all] H2O Man May 22 OP
You ought to be a writer. cachukis May 22 #1
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #2
If you have the time and enough typewriter ribbons. cachukis May 22 #5
Any possibility -- this is kind of far-fetched -- that Rubin was framed to take him out of the boxing game? malthaussen May 22 #19
Wow, hell of a story, good job! Walleye May 22 #3
Thanks! H2O Man May 22 #6
That's so interesting and sad. Shows how little we know of our own history. Walleye May 22 #24
Waterman you are my idea of good people malaise May 22 #4
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #7
Nailed it re the penal system malaise May 22 #13
There are some H2O Man May 22 #21
The cruelty sanctioned by the state in many countries is malaise May 22 #27
"Less money invested in prisons?" I don't think so, Pat. malthaussen May 22 #20
Not in my state. H2O Man May 22 #22
That was an excellent read. You had a super cool experience becoming friends with Hurricane. 1WorldHope May 22 #8
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #11
It is a pleasure to be here and read your wisdom. 1WorldHope May 22 #23
Well, thank you! H2O Man May 22 #29
A Truly Strong Man Kid Berwyn May 22 #9
I have a NYT article H2O Man May 22 #25
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe May 22 #10
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #26
Dylan flashman13 May 22 #12
Great song! H2O Man May 22 #30
I read this a few months ago. mgardener May 22 #14
Beautiful! H2O Man May 22 #31
Wonderful story, H2O Man! lastlib May 22 #15
Thanks! H2O Man May 22 #32
Thanks, Pat Easterncedar May 22 #16
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #33
Yes. It seems wrong. Easterncedar May 23 #36
K & R Recommended! FakeNoose May 22 #17
Thanks! H2O Man May 23 #34
Wonderful, amazing and inspiring. people May 22 #18
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #35
I love your Rubin stories Saoirse9 May 22 #28
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #37
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