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25. The bottomline is that Biden

Reply to karynnj (Reply #18)

Thu May 21, 2026, 10:30 PM

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Intentionally led voters to believe he wouldn’t run for a second term.

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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris [View all] dalton99a May 21 OP

Yes.. agree. But Barack Obama did get 43% of rural, although less than R opponent each time. hlthe2b May 21 #1

A must read article at link, it will set off another angry round of pointless recriminations within the party. sop May 21 #2

POTUS Biden was knee-capped from behind. PufPuf23 May 21 #16

Biden performed horribly at the debate, you can't deny that. dem4decades May 22 #77

We weren't the one harping about MustLoveBeagles May 21 #3

Indeed. I don't recall Kamala spending a lot of time on the culture war issues Redleg May 21 #26

But, we think that people who aren't Bettie May 22 #69

Bingo MustLoveBeagles May 22 #74

The party and Biden should receive the majority of the criticism exboyfil May 21 #4

Much as I respect Biden, I can't disagree. sop May 21 #7

He flushed his legacy down the toilet Jose Garcia May 21 #8

Biden got very bad advice and should have made the Prevention of Trump's Return a top priority. dalton99a May 21 #10

Are we sure it was advice? Polybius May 21 #24

Considering how long it took after the debate disaster, yes it was blind ego. thought crime May 22 #30

I believe that Joe Biden thought he was the only person capable of beating Trump MichMan May 22 #73

He still thought that too after the election Polybius May 22 #97

Partly ego fujiyamasan May 22 #85

While not the biggest Biden fan compared to many here, I can't agree with that EdmondDantes_ May 21 #11

You are explaining WHY he didn't step down. thought crime May 22 #29

Agree, sadly. BannonsLiver May 22 #61

Clan you find a Biden quote ever saying he was going to leave after one term? karynnj May 21 #14

Here you go Sewa May 21 #15

That is others saying he won't run a second time karynnj May 21 #18

The bottomline is that Biden Sewa May 21 #25

Post removed Post removed May 22 #28

"Suggests" is not definitive Mad_Machine76 May 21 #20

It's not typically done to primary a sitting president pinkstarburst May 22 #46

It's also not typical to insist a sitting President removes himself from the ballot and then Quiet Em May 22 #49

Anyone that dared to challenge him in the primary was attacked here MichMan May 22 #75

They were awful candidates Mad_Machine76 May 22 #91

He could have easily declared victory after the 2022 mid terms and announced he wasn't running. BannonsLiver May 22 #62

Here's a great piece RoseTrellis May 22 #98

Exactly this. No one was excited about pinkstarburst May 22 #45

I could write a better "autopsy" in a few sentences. FascismIsDeath May 21 #5

+1. And the migrant surge shouldn't have been allowed. That was a huge gift to Trump. dalton99a May 21 #6

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That's one I don't see many addressing fujiyamasan May 21 #17

This is a good analysis. yardwork May 22 #33

It's sad isn't it? fujiyamasan May 22 #57

Absolutely. yardwork May 22 #66

The Harris is for They/Them and Trump is for You commercial was brutal. bearsfootball516 May 22 #54

They couldn't figure out how? yardwork May 22 #67

It's not true. Harris ran rebuttal ads in swing states pivoting to the economy. betsuni May 22 #96

No, she says she countered it by saying "Trump says a lot of things about me, but I know the thing you care about betsuni May 22 #95

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Harris was forbidden to distance herself from the Biden years GreatGazoo May 22 #90

Agreed pinkstarburst May 22 #48

migrants benefit the nation, even the undocumented ones bigtree May 22 #60

Thank you for this MustLoveBeagles May 22 #83

But Schumer swore this would work! leftstreet May 21 #9

sure, it was Schumer's fault that Democrats who showed up to defeat Trump by voting for Biden bigtree May 22 #35

He said they didn't need blue collar workers leftstreet May 22 #40

no he didn't bigtree May 22 #41

I was just quoting him leftstreet May 22 #42

no where is he quoted saying what you claimed bigtree May 22 #44

It was from The National Review leftstreet May 22 #56

I can read bigtree May 22 #63

Okay leftstreet May 22 #68

I personally believe he'll retire after the midterms bigtree May 22 #72

Sidestepping critical issues is not an autopsy. Incredible. Passages May 21 #12

what 'critical issue' was more important to people than keeping a convicted felon in their own country out of office? bigtree May 22 #37

If you want to win, you cover all the bases. Passages May 22 #43

this is delusionary bigtree May 22 #50

The better question imo, why do an autopsy if you plan on omitting information that Passages May 22 #51

no, the question is, why does anyone need that falderal? bigtree May 22 #55

Are you serious? The party does an autopsy for answers, instead of assumptions. Passages May 22 #58

'the party' bigtree May 22 #64

Ken Martin commissioned the autopsy. You already seem to believe to know why we lost and how. Passages May 22 #70

not enough Dems showed up bigtree May 22 #76

You have done quite a bit of guessing. The point of an autopsy is to look at the issues objectively. Passages May 22 #79

the guessing is mostly from those assuming the DNC didn't look at the report bigtree May 22 #81

After losing twice to Trump, it is dangerous to assume anything. Passages May 22 #82

Thank you again MustLoveBeagles May 22 #84

Riiight. Let's all engage in more B.See May 21 #19

Republicans write off rural America, give them nothing but culture wars and sit back taking their vote for granted. betsuni May 21 #21

this shit is why we lost bigtree May 21 #22

I agree. hamsterjill May 21 #27

Boy, I sure wish I could get away with lines like this at my own job - if I messed up and the boss asked me to explain Midwestern Democrat May 22 #36

What the hell happened in politics always ends up in finger pointing. tavernier May 22 #38

those folks people are dragging had ONE VOTE each in that election bigtree May 22 #39

AGAIN, EXACTLY THIS. Voters B.See May 22 #94

In the engineering world it's usually root cause analysis or 5-whys fujiyamasan May 22 #89

Word MustLoveBeagles May 22 #86

EXACTLY THIS, Bigtree. Again, B.See May 22 #93

Glad it was released, but why not address this part: Polybius May 21 #23

Instead, it points to our failure with rural voters. Thanks. thought crime May 22 #31

Probably by consultants who want Bettie May 22 #71

I think it's more of a revolving door fujiyamasan May 22 #87

This is a disgrace. yardwork May 22 #32

most of the fools still dragging the party today like we're the opposition didn't bother to vote against the republicans bigtree May 22 #34

I think we're talking about two different things. yardwork May 22 #47

I think they're good for some things bigtree May 22 #53

And now Americans are learning the hard way why Rump is a disaster Bluestocking May 22 #52

And Trump practically advertised what he was going to do - retribution, dictatorship and all dalton99a May 22 #65

Same reason Kerry and Clinton lost gay texan May 22 #78

+1. It is an uphill battle dalton99a May 22 #80

Kamala most definitely did NOT go too far left with identity politics or social issues biocube May 22 #88

The best autopsy on the 2016 campaign was the NYTimes best seller "Shattered" GreatGazoo May 22 #92

That's because this autopsy is not an autopsy at all standingtall Saturday #99