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36. no, the courts fell short, then the American people followed
Fri May 15, 2026, 02:43 PM
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read some facts and respond to them, instead of the simple proposition that time passed and it must be the prosecution's fault.

Politico put it succinctly in outlining conclusions in Smith's final report:

___A common sentiment on the left is that Garland was too deferential to Trump after Joe Biden took office and failed to unleash the full might of the department on the former president for nearly two years. The delay, critics say, made it much more difficult for Smith — once he was appointed in November 2022 — to bring Trump to trial before the 2024 election.

But Smith’s report emphasized that the Justice Department was aggressively investigating leads related to Trump long before the special counsel’s tenure began. Litigation tactics by Trump and his allies, Smith argued, were the key factors that slowed the process to a crawl.

...It took Smith more than a year to obtain text messages between Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) and Trump DOJ official Jeffrey Clark. And the department spent months fighting to access communications of John Eastman, a lawyer who helped devise Trump’s last-ditch efforts to remain in power.

The most protracted battles of all stemmed from Trump’s “broad invocation of executive privilege to try to prevent witnesses from providing evidence,” Smith wrote. It took months of secretive legal proceedings to secure testimony from Trump White House aides such as Mark Meadows, Dan Scavino and Pat Cipollone. Former Vice President Mike Pence also resisted testifying until a court ordered him to reveal some — but not all — details about his interactions with Trump. Smith noted that judges broadly rejected Trump’s privilege claims, with one holding that he was engaged in an “obvious” effort to delay the investigation.

Smith also drew attention to what may have been his biggest foil: the Supreme Court. He pointed out that the justices rebuffed his effort to put Trump’s presidential immunity claims on a similar timetable to the one the court adopted five decades earlier in litigation over Watergate and President Richard Nixon’s tapes.

And Smith argued that the Supreme Court’s resolution of Trump’s immunity assertion essentially guaranteed another round of litigation that would have been all but certain to return to the justices if Trump had not won the election and the prosecution had continued.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/jack-smith-special-counsel-report-takeaways-00198252


ANYTIME folks are ready to move past this embarrassing abandonment of the Trump prosecution, and are willing to reject the Trump DOGE-enabling attacks on what's essentially the prosecutors who worked successfully to indictments with more than enough time for a trial (the ones getting fired right now for doing the job the left claims never happened), we can all confront the corrupt, interfering and enabling courts together, who, should be noted, unlike the efforts of the Biden DOJ, did not hasten justice in their respective positions in order to protect the American people from the clear and present insurrectionist.

I mean, they're still fucking there enabling the man they allowed back into office, and Garland is out of power.

When is this avoidance going to end of refusing to confront the people who engineered the delays until the election? Critics are still mired in attacking the prosecution instead of the perp; working to downplay and discredit the prosecution of Trump, even as the WH is working to downplay and discredit the prosecution and jail the prosecutors.

How many of these critics even know what's in the indictment, or the present state of the charges. Do they care? Clue: They're preserved for a future prosecution. Why the flagging energy for that effort? Wondering myself, given the lengths gone to drag the prosecution?

Did it ever occur to you that you have the absolute wrong person in your sights?

Doesn't it feel the least bit weird attacking the prosecutors, instead of the judges and justices who actually delayed a trial for charges that dropped some SEVENTEEN MONTHS before we voted?

I mean, they're STILL FUCKING IN POWER.

The person who was doing the right thing is not.

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who else is attacking Trump's prosecutors, and the man who convicted the rioters Trump pardoned, released bigtree Friday #1
Where are Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco Today? gab13by13 Friday #2
Garland delayed in prosecuting Trump after GOP tried to delay his nomination for a huge loss of time. GreenWave Friday #4
Money, Power, Fascism -- The Octopus Kid Berwyn Friday #3
and the Supreme Court who not only enabled Trump back into office bigtree Friday #7
Garland did not stop the traitor nor his conspiracy. Kid Berwyn Friday #20
charges were brought some 17 months before the election bigtree Friday #22
In truth, it goes back to Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963. Kid Berwyn Friday #24
The Berwyn Book Encyclopedia yellow dahlia Friday #64
The OCTOPUS in Dallas: Poppy involved in JFK Assassination Kid Berwyn 22 hrs ago #77
Thanks, Kid! yellow dahlia 22 hrs ago #78
Garland fell short for whatever reason and on that basis given the ramifications, was a colossal failure. Defending him KPN Friday #29
no, the courts fell short, then the American people followed bigtree Friday #36
Thanks for all the good information. Minds may not be changed, but facts will be out there. Joinfortmill Yesterday #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Friday #40
Agreed. The moment he knew of stolen state secrets he should arrested him... returnee Friday #49
the courts failed us bigtree Friday #50
As I understand it... returnee Yesterday #66
The government brings the cases before the grand jury questionseverything 4 hrs ago #82
counterpunch was basically a Russian tool during the 2016 election bigtree Friday #12
CounterPunch sucks most when they publish an article I don't agree with. Kid Berwyn Friday #21
Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez is doing her courageous part with the Epstein horrors on her substack. Bumbles Friday #5
If Merrick Garland is really "one of them" then why wasn't he approved for SCOTUS? FakeNoose Friday #6
As Is Your Prerogative. But Don't Think You KNOW Garland...... ColoringFool Friday #9
most people who pretend he's some double agent don't know anything about the actual prosecution bigtree Friday #11
What became of those prosecutions? CivicGrief Friday #30
instead of just being trifled with this bigtree Friday #35
Ha! Future prosecutions. CivicGrief Friday #41
what's sad is the literal surrender from people claiming to be so concerned with prosecuting Trump bigtree Friday #47
If Jack Smith ever comes forward and says that Merrick Garland is actually "corrupt" and "in with them" FakeNoose Friday #53
Garland hate guarantees clicks MorbidButterflyTat Friday #33
Republicans prevented Garland Mad_Machine76 Friday #62
That's because Garland is not (and never was) one of them FakeNoose Yesterday #74
I HAVE SAID MOST OF THIS, EVEN BCCI. AND THEN THE "WOOO! TINHAT!" COMMENTS...... ColoringFool Friday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Friday #10
To people like Thiel, Musk, and their employees manipulating the data to get their and the Powers That Be .. Botany Friday #13
Don't forget the bomb threats karin_sj Friday #52
I've been saying the same thing for years. Irish_Dem Friday #18
May I suggest lonely bird Friday #14
So glad that he prioritized avoiding the appearance of a political agenda Orrex Friday #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Yesterday #67
The Garland Society folks don't like this one bit. BannonsLiver Friday #16
Garland society folks are pro prosecution of Trump bigtree Friday #17
Bahahaha BannonsLiver Friday #25
no doubt the Anti-Trump Prosecution society exists bigtree Friday #37
Epstein class oligarchs irisblue Friday #19
😬 Floyd R. Turbo Friday #23
Bookmarking for later reading. Epstein-town? CoopersDad Friday #26
Maybe that's why it always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back bucolic_frolic Friday #27
Well, one thing cannot be denied, Garland was an Obama SCOTUS choice. Joinfortmill Friday #28
True. My understanding was he selected Garland as someone the R Senate would surely approve -- part of his "team of KPN Friday #31
Great post/thread Botany, even if in small or even large part it is theory. Theory is what leads to finding facts and KPN Friday #32
All I know is, Trump never talks about Garland nor does he seek revenge against him thebigidea Friday #34
you have to be kidding bigtree Friday #38
I see you graduated to Trump Truth Social posts CivicGrief Friday #42
this is specious bigtree Friday #45
It's a false claim to imply Trump is going after Garland in the courts like he is everyone else thebigidea Friday #57
not yet bigtree Friday #59
It's possible that Donald is AFRAID of Garland, with good reason I might add. Joinfortmill Yesterday #70
Is "Thiswillhold" the QAnon of the left? chowder66 Friday #39
It is BlueAnon. It pushes CT crackpottery that repeatededly has been debunked, yet it persists. Celerity Friday #43
Yes. mr715 Friday #56
I love history. I love mysteries. I love taking things... littlemissmartypants Friday #44
Knowledge is good Botany Friday #46
This thing, I call it the evil of psychopaths, has existed for all time. ... littlemissmartypants Friday #48
The best way out of our current predicament is arresting the evil doers questionseverything 4 hrs ago #83
by the way, the substack is conspiratorial claptrap bigtree Friday #51
It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation Wiz Imp Yesterday #76
It is difficult to have useful discussions of this type of material, because... TygrBright Friday #54
You mean we should be a.... reACTIONary Friday #65
Untangling the Octopus Kid Berwyn Friday #55
who is this new poster, and what expertise does he have for making these claims bigtree Friday #60
To help explain how Epstein was protected since Reagan. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #73
Duh , kid is octo... octo is kid , he's a long time duer and he is always sourced questionseverything 4 hrs ago #81
It's disgusting to see this kooky CT nonsense rise to the top of the Greatest Page Fiendish Thingy Friday #58
Every bit of it is sourced and footnoted. Hardly kooky conspiracy theory. Botany Yesterday #71
Thanks for sharing, Botany! That was an important read. It was jam packed. yellow dahlia Friday #61
This is why I have become a misanthrope. BigmanPigman Friday #63
Garland was blueknight73 Yesterday #69
a tragic mistake themaguffin Yesterday #75
Well, there's this. It seems that Merrick Garland was NOT popular with the Federalist Society Joinfortmill Yesterday #72
Eaton Corporation LessAspin 20 hrs ago #79
And in 2021 Eaton bought Tripp Lite and that allowed the placement of firmware patches onto the Botany 8 hrs ago #80
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