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In reply to the discussion: I may get banned for this, but [View all]jfz9580m
(17,306 posts)It sounds like roofies in a few instances. And totally creepy and unprofessional behaviour overall.
I dont think the Al Franken allegations were anything like this (though I did not follow them much as I was pretty tuned out at that time). Hell, I dont think the Weiner allegations were this bad. This is rape ffs.
Womens rights have been taking a steady beating in the last 6-7 years with the overturn of Roe v Wade, the disproportionate impact of covid on womens livelihoods, the rise of a tacitly anti-equality strain of thought (a ghastly oped by someone called Ben Wray in the Jacobin struck me in particular). Women make up a significant portion of the dem base given that if you care about the environment, science or womens rights at all, the U.S. is pretty much a one-party country.
There is the rare GOP candidate who may even spout some economic populism, but never support for womens rights.
These allegations are about as serious as they get and it is up to four women:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eric-swalwell-sexual-assault-allegations_n_69d97452e4b0ccb589ece93b?origin=article-related-nonlife
On another alleged occasion, the staffer says Swalwell tried to kiss her when she was driving him home from a meeting.
In 2024, after she was no longer working for Swalwell, the staffer says she encountered him at a charity gala and that he forced himself on her when she was drunk. In texts to a friend after the alleged incident, which were reviewed by the Chronicle, Swalwells accuser said she woke up once during it and even told him to stop at one point.
Another woman told the network that she found herself intoxicated in Swalwells hotel room with little memory of the evening. She said the lawmaker had nonconsensually kissed her and touched her leg in a bar earlier that night.
A different woman reported a very similar experience, saying she had connected with Swalwell on Instagram in 2025 and that he sent her his phone number. She said she later met with him in person and that he touched her leg and kissed her nonconsensually and ordered her a drink. She says she later found herself in his hotel room with no memory of how she got there, and that what happened in the room is a blur.
I back due process obviously. But we comment all the time on stories before a full Merrick Garland style investigation is complete and these are allegations that many if not most women would recognize a familiar creepy pattern in.
I support these women as they will attacked by jerks and creeps. Why was she so drunk?, why didnt she do this or that?
It is often a very confusing headspace women forced into creepy situations deal with as experienced professionals in these areas know.
I have been posting about the worst allegation I have seen so far against Trump-the 13 year old he tried to force into grotesque crap and then physically abused as well.
And this is no different. No woman should have to put up with shit like this.
13-Year-Old Trump Accuser Has Key Details of Her Story Verified
The story appeared in an FBI interview in the Epstein files.
https://newrepublic.com/post/207439/department-justice-posts-fbi-interviews-donald-trump-accuser-epstein
The interviews took place between August and October 2019. The woman, according to her testimony, was abused by Jeffrey Epstein for years. Her name is redacted across three separate files, but her allegation against the president is clear: Trump punched her on the side of her head after she bit his penis. She was between 13 and 15 years old at the time, she told investigators, when Epstein brought her to a very tall building with huge rooms in either New York or New Jersey. Thats where the prolific sex trafficker introduced her to Trump, she recalled.
Trump didnt like that I was a boy-girl, the woman told investigators, referencing a tomboy.
The woman claimed that she bit Trumps penis at the time because he disgusted her.
He had money, it reeked off of him, she said.
She noted that Trump appeared jealous of Epstein, though at some point they ended up on level playing fields. She recalled that Trump and Epstein would sometimes use the terms fresh meat, untainted, and not jaded when referring to girls.
She told investigators she had two additional interactions with Trump but did not linger on the topic.
The woman claimed Epsteins associates harassed her for years after the abuse ended, sending her numerous death threats. In one instance, she and her mother were run off a road while driving, forcing her to remain silent.
Trump is mentioned more than 38,000 times in the Epstein files, according to a New York Times review of the DOJs February document dump, which consisted of some three million previously unseen pages. All in all, Trump was flagged in more than 5,300 files in the document cache, according to the Times.
This stuff is all outrageous and the status of women and children in all these societies is deteriorating fast. Not to mention every other bloody thing that matters..
So sick of this shit..