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hamsterjill

(17,620 posts)
98. The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:39 PM
12 hrs ago

Not defending Timothy Busfield, but Melissa Gilbert gave an interview earlier this week and that was what she said. If Busfield is even found innocent and charges dropped, etc., there is always going to be that stigma of the charges. Same with most men who are accused.

In a court of law, I guarantee you the woman who says she was attacked twice while drunk would be laughed out of court. Same with the State Trooper who accused Cuomo. Cuomo is assuredly a dirty asshole, but a State Trooper should be expected to be able to defend herself, wouldn't you think? People on DU can scream all they want about it not being fair. It isn't.

I am an old and devout feminist, and I certainly believe that there are times when women are abused. Full stop. But I also know that there are times when those accusations are "timed" just for a certain result. *I* (personally) want to empower women to be able to fight back against sexual abuse. *I* grew up with the understanding that if a man came on to me and I said "no", that the next step was going to be to slap the shit out of him, find a safe place and call the police. I realize I'm simplifying. But women need to feel strong enough to report these things WHEN they happen. That's my hope for a future one day, and that will make the abuse less frequent when men know that there's a price to pay timely.

I'll continue to wait until we see some further evidence before I condemn Swalwell. That doesn't mean that when I see what I need to see that makes me believe he may be guilty, that I won't change my mind and call for him to step down. I'm just not there yet on this one.





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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck 15 hrs ago OP
I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 15 hrs ago #3
I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #7
Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #9
Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #24
Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #27
That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #28
Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #35
And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover 14 hrs ago #67
I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 13 hrs ago #92
Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover 13 hrs ago #93
I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m 5 hrs ago #131
an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 15 hrs ago #32
Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 14 hrs ago #70
"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin 15 hrs ago #31
Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #34
Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF 14 hrs ago #40
I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #41
Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #50
If it was pukes, not fooled 14 hrs ago #65
You must be male..... Biglinda 52 13 hrs ago #78
I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover 13 hrs ago #79
My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 13 hrs ago #90
Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover 12 hrs ago #94
Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 10 hrs ago #113
But four women all now? hamsterjill 15 hrs ago #22
I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #26
Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill 12 hrs ago #97
I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers 15 hrs ago #30
The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill 12 hrs ago #98
I have no idea soldierant 7 hrs ago #128
Please don't. hamsterjill 4 hrs ago #132
California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #45
You get it FHRRK1 9 hrs ago #118
D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth 9 hrs ago #121
I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 13 hrs ago #85
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl 11 hrs ago #103
Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube 11 hrs ago #102
I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy 1 hr ago #136
Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork 15 hrs ago #11
That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #49
Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn 14 hrs ago #61
Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #68
Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn 14 hrs ago #71
Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #75
Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage 13 hrs ago #88
So Do I WiVoter 15 hrs ago #15
It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #2
Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX 9 hrs ago #123
Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #4
These threads.... smh. yardwork 15 hrs ago #12
It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #13
He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet 15 hrs ago #5
If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca 15 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 15 hrs ago #6
Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 15 hrs ago #19
Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad 15 hrs ago #37
How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane 15 hrs ago #20
Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad 15 hrs ago #39
Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito 14 hrs ago #44
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane 14 hrs ago #74
Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane 14 hrs ago #69
Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #60
That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork 15 hrs ago #8
This +1 Emile 15 hrs ago #14
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv 15 hrs ago #21
Yep Lifeafter70 10 hrs ago #110
Yes, this is a good point. True Dough 15 hrs ago #23
Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected 15 hrs ago #36
And.....? yardwork 14 hrs ago #53
How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #51
It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything 14 hrs ago #55
so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin 15 hrs ago #10
You are 100% correct ABC123Easy 15 hrs ago #17
It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL 15 hrs ago #18
I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat 15 hrs ago #25
It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal 15 hrs ago #29
I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine 6 hrs ago #129
Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard 15 hrs ago #33
Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #38
in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #43
I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #42
Agree mikewv 14 hrs ago #47
I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #122
Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #46
Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen 14 hrs ago #48
Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt 14 hrs ago #52
So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn 11 hrs ago #108
100% this obamanut2012 14 hrs ago #54
Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk 14 hrs ago #56
Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #64
Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk 10 hrs ago #111
Has Eric responded? GreenWave 14 hrs ago #57
He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw 14 hrs ago #73
It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 3 hrs ago #133
Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw 3 hrs ago #134
Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 14 hrs ago #58
Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn 14 hrs ago #59
See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue 14 hrs ago #62
This perspective is bullshit. hunter 14 hrs ago #63
And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #120
I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill 14 hrs ago #66
It's the double standard Ibapah 14 hrs ago #72
Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms 14 hrs ago #76
I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp 13 hrs ago #77
We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye 13 hrs ago #80
"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan 13 hrs ago #81
I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy 13 hrs ago #82
He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 13 hrs ago #83
Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj 13 hrs ago #84
Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs 13 hrs ago #86
I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles 2 hrs ago #135
Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #87
They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious 13 hrs ago #89
If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs 13 hrs ago #91
No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe 12 hrs ago #95
it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles 12 hrs ago #100
Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis 12 hrs ago #96
I don't think so... WarGamer 12 hrs ago #99
Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo 12 hrs ago #101
Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech 11 hrs ago #104
The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud 11 hrs ago #105
No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces 11 hrs ago #106
I'm a California voter... GJGCA 11 hrs ago #107
I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 10 hrs ago #109
Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA 10 hrs ago #112
they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 10 hrs ago #114
They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh 9 hrs ago #117
full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 6 hrs ago #130
Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg 10 hrs ago #115
Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh 9 hrs ago #116
This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas 9 hrs ago #119
Face the facts.. raising2moredems 7 hrs ago #124
I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay 7 hrs ago #125
I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing 7 hrs ago #126
Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl 7 hrs ago #127
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