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35. Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 12:45 PM
19 hrs ago

But as I posted in other spots, what has me leaning a little more to his guilt is the description of the heavy drinking aspects, and the lack of vociferous denials of THAT by people who should know.

Combine the booze factor with a guy who has been shaped in a misogynistic culture - even if sober he doesn't agree with it - and the risks are very high that there is some truth to the accusations. (to be clear, risk does not equal something actually happening. but best for someone to avoid the risk, period.)

Hell, maybe he could credibly claim in each case that he thought the woman consented. Then we get into whether consent is truly possible in these situations.

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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck 20 hrs ago OP
I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 20 hrs ago #3
I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #7
Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #9
Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder 19 hrs ago #24
Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #27
That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #28
Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #35
And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #67
I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 17 hrs ago #92
Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover 17 hrs ago #93
I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m 10 hrs ago #131
an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #32
Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 18 hrs ago #70
"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #31
Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #34
Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF 19 hrs ago #40
I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #41
Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #50
If it was pukes, not fooled 18 hrs ago #65
You must be male..... Biglinda 52 18 hrs ago #78
I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #79
My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 17 hrs ago #90
Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover 17 hrs ago #94
Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 14 hrs ago #113
But four women all now? hamsterjill 19 hrs ago #22
I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #26
Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #97
I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers 19 hrs ago #30
The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill 16 hrs ago #98
I have no idea soldierant 11 hrs ago #128
Please don't. hamsterjill 8 hrs ago #132
California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth 18 hrs ago #45
You get it FHRRK1 13 hrs ago #118
D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth 13 hrs ago #121
I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 17 hrs ago #85
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl 15 hrs ago #103
Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube 16 hrs ago #102
I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy 6 hrs ago #136
Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork 19 hrs ago #11
That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth 18 hrs ago #49
Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn 18 hrs ago #61
Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth 18 hrs ago #68
Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn 18 hrs ago #71
Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth 18 hrs ago #75
Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage 17 hrs ago #88
So Do I WiVoter 19 hrs ago #15
It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy 20 hrs ago #2
Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX 13 hrs ago #123
Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #4
These threads.... smh. yardwork 19 hrs ago #12
It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #13
He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet 19 hrs ago #5
If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca 19 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 19 hrs ago #6
Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 19 hrs ago #19
Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad 19 hrs ago #37
How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #20
Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad 19 hrs ago #39
Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito 19 hrs ago #44
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane 18 hrs ago #74
Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane 18 hrs ago #69
Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #60
That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork 19 hrs ago #8
This +1 Emile 19 hrs ago #14
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv 19 hrs ago #21
Yep Lifeafter70 14 hrs ago #110
Yes, this is a good point. True Dough 19 hrs ago #23
Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected 19 hrs ago #36
And.....? yardwork 18 hrs ago #53
How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #51
It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything 18 hrs ago #55
so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #10
You are 100% correct ABC123Easy 19 hrs ago #17
It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL 19 hrs ago #18
I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat 19 hrs ago #25
It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal 19 hrs ago #29
I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine 11 hrs ago #129
Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard 19 hrs ago #33
Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #38
in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #43
I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #42
Agree mikewv 18 hrs ago #47
I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover 13 hrs ago #122
Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #46
Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen 18 hrs ago #48
Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt 18 hrs ago #52
So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn 15 hrs ago #108
100% this obamanut2012 18 hrs ago #54
Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk 18 hrs ago #56
Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #64
Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk 14 hrs ago #111
One of the incidents was in 2024. And it often happens that after some woman finally comes forward, pnwmom 3 hrs ago #138
Has Eric responded? GreenWave 18 hrs ago #57
He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw 18 hrs ago #73
It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 7 hrs ago #133
Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw 7 hrs ago #134
Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 18 hrs ago #58
Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn 18 hrs ago #59
See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue 18 hrs ago #62
This perspective is bullshit. hunter 18 hrs ago #63
And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m 13 hrs ago #120
I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill 18 hrs ago #66
It's the double standard Ibapah 18 hrs ago #72
Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms 18 hrs ago #76
I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp 18 hrs ago #77
We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye 18 hrs ago #80
"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan 18 hrs ago #81
I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy 18 hrs ago #82
He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 17 hrs ago #83
Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj 17 hrs ago #84
Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs 17 hrs ago #86
I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles 7 hrs ago #135
Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain 17 hrs ago #87
They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious 17 hrs ago #89
If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs 17 hrs ago #91
No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe 17 hrs ago #95
it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles 16 hrs ago #100
Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis 16 hrs ago #96
I don't think so... WarGamer 16 hrs ago #99
Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo 16 hrs ago #101
Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech 15 hrs ago #104
The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud 15 hrs ago #105
No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces 15 hrs ago #106
I'm a California voter... GJGCA 15 hrs ago #107
I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 15 hrs ago #109
Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA 14 hrs ago #112
they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 14 hrs ago #114
They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh 14 hrs ago #117
full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 10 hrs ago #130
Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg 14 hrs ago #115
Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh 14 hrs ago #116
This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas 13 hrs ago #119
Face the facts.. raising2moredems 12 hrs ago #124
I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay 12 hrs ago #125
I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing 11 hrs ago #126
Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl 11 hrs ago #127
So Katie Porter isn't electable because she used a swear word, but we're supposed pnwmom 3 hrs ago #137
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