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55. Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct,

Wed Feb 25, 2026, 11:52 AM

Feb 25

it was about political expediency - "the way she thought the wind blew."

Republican operatives must have been thrilled, as they used Democrats' positions against them. When a movement like #MeToo goes viral, there will always be bad actors who will take advantage of it and in the process, they'll undermine it.

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Has Sen. Kristen Gillibrand demanded that Rep Tony Gonzalez resign yet? Asking for Al Franken. [View all] Chasstev365 Feb 25 OP

Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #1

i thought it was one picture samsingh Feb 25 #6

No SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #7

And those accusations were absurd PatSeg Feb 25 #18

Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #25

"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg Feb 25 #30

Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #33

It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis Feb 25 #41

First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #43

Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 Feb 25 #89

It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy Feb 25 #83

How? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #85

That isn't the measure MadameButterfly Feb 25 #112

Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #114

He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly Feb 25 #116

I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #117

No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool Feb 25 #44

Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #46

It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 Feb 25 #93

Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #101

OK... eom Karma13612 Feb 26 #127

Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker Feb 25 #79

He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #81

Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em Feb 25 #84

She flamed out running Karma13612 Feb 25 #92

She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em Feb 25 #94

I'm in NYS Karma13612 Feb 25 #96

If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em Feb 25 #98

That's true SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #102

She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #105

More than one SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #113

Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #104

They probably have SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #110

That's the false narrative iemanja Feb 25 #118

Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW Feb 25 #11

Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #13

Indeed she did DFW Feb 25 #14

But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA Feb 25 #37

Harris was not far behind. DFW Feb 25 #61

Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA Feb 25 #65

She definitely took credit for it lame54 Feb 25 #78

YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #106

My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady Feb 25 #54

I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW Feb 25 #59

I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady Feb 25 #66

There was PLENTY of that DFW Feb 25 #70

Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW Feb 25 #60

They were not the only ones. iemanja Feb 25 #121

Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge Feb 25 #28

Oh, sure DFW Feb 25 #62

No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge Feb 25 #64

So do I DFW Feb 25 #68

We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge Feb 25 #71

He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW Feb 25 #74

Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #76

It must have been awful for him. AloeVera Feb 25 #97

Schumer was one of two final insults DFW Feb 25 #99

Did you ever consider that maybe Al was guilty? 31st Street Bridge Feb 26 #131

Since I had known him for years prior to this, plus DFW Feb 26 #132

Seems it was all staged outrage that overwhelmed more naive legislators 31st Street Bridge Feb 26 #133

Seems the current administration can withstand any attack 31st Street Bridge Feb 26 #129

I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #75

Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #107

More like he deserted our party 31st Street Bridge Feb 26 #130

Gillibrand led the charge RVN VET71 Feb 26 #124

Making a Facebook post is leading the charge? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 26 #125

She was the first to call for Al's resignation RVN VET71 Sunday #134

Yes she was SocialDemocrat61 Monday #137

I suspect they WOULD have, if 'the zone' wasn't 'flooded with SHIT' Jack Valentino Sunday #136

Maybe because SocialDemocrat61 Monday #138

GREAT POINT MoseShrute Feb 25 #2

Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck Feb 25 #3

Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #9

I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck Feb 25 #10

The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #12

So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck Feb 25 #24

No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #32

I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck Feb 25 #38

Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #40

So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck Feb 25 #51

So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #52

What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ Feb 25 #58

The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck Feb 25 #91

The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ Feb 25 #95

. MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #108

That is how I recall it PatSeg Feb 25 #21

You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck Feb 25 #27

And to make matters even worse, PatSeg Feb 25 #35

Hear, hear. peppertree Feb 25 #39

Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg Feb 25 #55

Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen Feb 25 #57

Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck Feb 25 #90

I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen Feb 25 #100

K & R malaise Feb 25 #4

Good question samsingh Feb 25 #5

Post removed Post removed Feb 25 #8

No MustLoveBeagles Feb 25 #15

I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical Feb 25 #16

My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 Feb 25 #17

But you're singling her out Sympthsical Feb 25 #19

Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 Feb 25 #22

So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical Feb 25 #31

I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 Feb 25 #34

Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #36

https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 Feb 25 #48

That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #49

"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 Feb 25 #50

She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #53

Political rival? karynnj Feb 25 #45

Politcal rival? Quiet Em Feb 25 #63

Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #67

I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em Feb 25 #69

There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #73

"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #109

Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #115

NEVER! Clouds Passing Feb 25 #20

WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy Feb 25 #23

Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx Feb 25 #26

Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB Feb 25 #47

Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo Feb 25 #56

Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 Feb 25 #72

For those who are curious TiberiusB 23 hrs ago #139

You betcha... PCIntern Feb 25 #29

Who is your Senator? Quiet Em Feb 25 #42

As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt Feb 25 #77

Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia Feb 25 #80

Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia Feb 25 #82

She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems Feb 25 #86

Thank you! Chasstev365 Feb 25 #87

The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja Feb 25 #120

Yes, women should be quiet, especially when sexual harassment is being discussed Jose Garcia Feb 26 #128

Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 Feb 25 #88

It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat Feb 25 #103

Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB Feb 25 #111

Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja Feb 25 #119

Absolutely Al graycampervan Feb 25 #122

No, that was Ted Kennedy SocialDemocrat61 Feb 26 #126

Gillibrand BGRD Feb 26 #123

Sen. Kristen Gillibrand ??? who is THAT ??? Jack Valentino Sunday #135