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QueerDuck

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24. So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take.
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 10:06 AM
20 hrs ago

Her voice was quite loud and frequent. That's no accident. That's largely how she's remembered and for good reason. It's unclear what reason anyone would have to try and deny the larger-than-life and aggressive role she played in taking down a good, honest and decent man.

With regard to his resignation... it's interesting that people like to give an abbreviated, stilted and truncated description of that. Often limited it to something as simplistic and abrupt as "and in the end Franken chose to resign" (implying guilt) but omitting other details that put his resignation in context of the time and in the context of his unselfish reasons and the party divisions and civil war that he had hoped would be avoided. I wonder why that is. (Actually, I don't.)

Yes, he resigned... but it was for the good of the party because he could see how divisive it was going to be. His resignation was not an admission of guilt or wrongdoing. He fell on his own sword out of deep respect for the party and recognition that cooler and calmer and rational heads would not prevail in the atmosphere and popular hashtag movement of the time. The argument that "he could have stayed" is a rather cynical attempt to mischaracterize or paper-over the reality at the time. The situation had already progressed beyond any hope of fairness, and he knew that. The bandwagon effect took over. The damage had been done and the saboteurs won.

So... let's be honest... Franken was no idiot. He could see what was happening and that the writing was on the wall. He could NOT have stayed and he could NOT have fought because everything was already rigged against him. He put the party above his own ego and what was right and fair. And still, in spite of his loyalty to the party and choosing to not put us through a drawn out process... there are still people who line up to eagerly bash him for it and to give him absolutely no credit. Sheesh. He was right. He knew it was a no-win situation, or that by demanding fairness, it would come at a political cost (to the party) that he was not willing to indulge for his own vanities and luxury.

He weighed the outcomes and the cost of each, and he chose the best one at the time. He put the party above his own pride and his own legacy. I admire him for making a difficult choice and I respect his reasons for doing so. So should you.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh 21 hrs ago #6
No SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg 20 hrs ago #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg 19 hrs ago #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis 19 hrs ago #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 13 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 14 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 19 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 13 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #101
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 14 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 13 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 13 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 12 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 9 hrs ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW 20 hrs ago #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #13
Indeed she did DFW 20 hrs ago #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA 19 hrs ago #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 17 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 16 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 15 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 18 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 17 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 15 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 15 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 17 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 9 hrs ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge 19 hrs ago #28
Oh, sure DFW 16 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 16 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 15 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 15 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 15 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 13 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 12 hrs ago #99
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #107
GREAT POINT MoseShrute 22 hrs ago #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck 21 hrs ago #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 21 hrs ago #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck 21 hrs ago #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck 19 hrs ago #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 13 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg 20 hrs ago #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg 19 hrs ago #35
Hear, hear. peppertree 19 hrs ago #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 18 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 17 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 13 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 12 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise 21 hrs ago #4
Good question samsingh 21 hrs ago #5
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #8
No MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 20 hrs ago #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 20 hrs ago #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 19 hrs ago #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 19 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 19 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 19 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 16 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing 20 hrs ago #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy 20 hrs ago #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx 20 hrs ago #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 19 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 18 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern 19 hrs ago #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 15 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 14 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 14 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 13 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 13 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 9 hrs ago #120
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 13 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 11 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 9 hrs ago #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan 6 hrs ago #122
Gillibrand BGRD 3 hrs ago #123
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