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TommyT139

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47. Not for thousands of Americans

Mon Feb 16, 2026, 03:04 PM

Feb 16

... especially if you have had a name change. The SAVE Act mess shows the flaws of assuming birth certificates are sufficient by themselves as proof of citizenship.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-save-act-bills-would-still-block-millions-americans-voting

Anyway, it's not worth trying to prove the point any more. I'm surprised there are people here who aren't a bit more inquisitive about why the regime wants to revoke passports, instead of simply enforcing the existing laws.

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State Department to revoke more passports from people who haven't paid child support [View all] MichMan Feb 12 OP

Whoa leftstreet Feb 12 #1

Quotas, people! UpInArms Feb 12 #2

You are OK with people not paying to support their children? MichMan Feb 12 #9

No ... UpInArms Feb 12 #10

How is not issuing a US Passport sending someone away? MichMan Feb 12 #11

Revoking passports UpInArms Feb 12 #13

Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act of 1998 passed the House 402-16 and was unanimous in the Senate MichMan Feb 12 #14

No UpInArms Feb 12 #15

What does any of that have to do with having a passport though? MichMan Feb 12 #16

Nevermind UpInArms Feb 12 #17

Ummm... revoking passports is noit deportation. I'm confused. Happy Hoosier Feb 12 #19

A mis-understanding of terms, VISA revoked... GJGCA Feb 16 #24

These are US citizens, revoking their passports just means they can't leave the country EX500rider Feb 16 #31

I don't think you understand how this legislation works. Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #39

Keep pretending that fence was to keep people out! ret5hd Feb 12 #3

Our plan is to retire abroad Johnny2X2X Feb 16 #22

If you depend on Traildogbob Feb 16 #29

"SS, Sate retirement or Vet benefits, that ain't going with you" nonsense EX500rider Feb 16 #32

You think it will exist! Traildogbob Feb 16 #35

People who owe child support should pay that before taking trips abroad, I am fine with it EX500rider Feb 16 #33

just keep pretending... ret5hd Feb 16 #36

Pretending what? States already revoke DL's over non-payment, Passports are a good addition IMO EX500rider Feb 16 #42

that it won't be you soon. ret5hd Feb 16 #44

I don't owe any child support so not worried, thanks though EX500rider Feb 16 #45

So you think there is some secret plan to deny passports to people? To what end? EX500rider Feb 16 #46

no, not secret at all. why did you ask that? ret5hd Feb 16 #51

Well there is a plan to deny passports to people behind in child support yes that is known EX500rider Feb 16 #54

only the worst of the worst... ret5hd Feb 16 #56

Bad law enforcement shoots does not equal "come for us" in my book, YMMV EX500rider Feb 16 #62

I'm not pretending Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #55

What about offenders who won't pay their fines? C_U_L8R Feb 12 #4

Good! Greg_In_SF Feb 12 #5

Apply it evenly and fairly, or do not apply it Torchlight Feb 12 #6

How is not issuing a passport removing people from their homes and neighborhoods? MichMan Feb 12 #7

It will be a tool to remove 'undesirables' Torchlight Feb 12 #8

Still not understanding how taking away a Passport is removing anyone? MichMan Feb 12 #12

I supported this legislation before it passed Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #30

Well, if they are removed Greg_In_SF Feb 12 #18

if they revoked my passport it would keep me here, not remove me eShirl Feb 16 #26

Lots of people don't have passports, it does not "remove people from their homes, neighborhoods and nation" EX500rider Feb 16 #34

They don't even have to be totally caught up Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #52

If revoking passports means a person cannot vote TommyT139 Feb 15 #20

There are other forms of ID besides Passports MichMan Feb 16 #21

Not correct. TommyT139 Feb 16 #38

"... having a valid passport -- the basic document of citizenship" That would be your birth certificate, not passport EX500rider Feb 16 #43

Not for thousands of Americans TommyT139 Feb 16 #47

Birth cert + marriage license EX500rider Feb 16 #48

From what I heard, usedtobedemgurl Feb 16 #59

Deadbeat Parents Punishment Act of 1998 passed the House 402-16 and was unanimous in the Senate MichMan Feb 16 #60

Exactly! usedtobedemgurl Feb 16 #61

Given my druthers, I think those evading court ordered child support should be sent to jail on a work release program MichMan Feb 16 #58

TIL there are DUers who do not know what passports are, what they do, and how they work nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #23

That is clearly the case, given the responses in this thread. MineralMan Feb 16 #25

Me too TommyT139 Feb 16 #40

So... Elon Musk is top of the list, right? SSJVegeta Feb 16 #27

I was just about to ask that. The Madcap Feb 16 #28

Does he owe child support? That would be surprising. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #49

Allegedly SSJVegeta Feb 16 #53

Wondering about the subset Boo1 Feb 16 #37

Agree with your last statement and Lifeafter70 Feb 16 #57

this thread is really something WhiskeyGrinder Feb 16 #41

Maybe you should have your passport confiscated nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 16 #50