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AZProgressive

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27. The Democrats are using the same playbook

Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:42 PM

20 hrs ago

that they used to counter defund the police are actual accountability the leadership pushed "reform" such as body cameras which hasn't made the police less violent and a lot of footage from body cameras never see the light of day. The same playbook they used to counter outrage against police they are using for ICE.

I agree with you as far as ICE not being as important as local police departments but Democratic leadership is using the same playbook against real ICE accountability the same as they countered outrage over the local police departments.

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The Schumer/Jeffries Softening On Masks [View all] gab13by13 21 hrs ago OP

This isn't even a negotiation leftstreet 21 hrs ago #1

Here's the deal, gab13by13 21 hrs ago #6

i think a lot more ppl r sick of the 'moderates' than the 'radicals'. mopinko 21 hrs ago #13

You couldn't be more right FoxNewsSucks 20 hrs ago #32

I think Dante's lowest circle of hell is for moderates. ananda 20 hrs ago #36

Moderates are the people pushing Bettie 10 hrs ago #57

Overton Window ananda 10 hrs ago #60

Yep, what is currently called "the far left" Bettie 10 hrs ago #61

Would they? Cirsium 19 hrs ago #42

Consider that the Republicans could correctly argue both Obama and Biden used ICE karynnj 6 hrs ago #67

Here in farm country Cirsium 6 hrs ago #68

Said "pummeling" certainly would have been the case a year ago, now "abolish ICE" seems the sane, moderate position 0rganism 16 hrs ago #50

Exactly Cirsium 19 hrs ago #41

I'd start with dismantling DHS tishaLA 18 hrs ago #44

K&R spanone 21 hrs ago #2

We should be saying, "You guarantee there'll be no more murders, kidnappings, illegal entries, Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #3

Democrats should have Congressional Magats by the short hairs. gab13by13 21 hrs ago #12

Me too. Again. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #15

no masks wear a badge creon 21 hrs ago #4

Some of their uniforms only say POLICE, gab13by13 21 hrs ago #8

that is wrong creon 11 hrs ago #56

Who is giving them such horrible advice? Chasstev365 21 hrs ago #5

I don't want any softening on this. Takket 21 hrs ago #7

dumb ass david axelrod is warning mopinko 21 hrs ago #9

F Axelrod. We don't need ICE like we need a police force. mzmolly 21 hrs ago #11

personally, i understood it. mopinko 20 hrs ago #20

I understood it, too. But it had to be explained as you note. mzmolly 20 hrs ago #23

The Democrats are using the same playbook AZProgressive 20 hrs ago #27

And at the same time, Steve Bannon is saying ICE mzmolly 20 hrs ago #28

It's OK for protesters to hold up signs that say Abolish ICE gab13by13 20 hrs ago #19

Good plan!! mzmolly 20 hrs ago #30

I agree with your take on this thread AZJonnie 16 hrs ago #48

Effn weak leadership vapor2 21 hrs ago #10

The article that started the hysteria that led to more Democratic bashing *literally* included Murphy. W_HAMILTON 21 hrs ago #14

I'm waving my ABOLISH SCHUMER protest sign in front of the computer, muttering personal insults at Democrats, betsuni 19 hrs ago #39

Yeah, I asked WHY The OP in That Thread Left OUT THIS PART? Cha 18 hrs ago #47

K&R red dog 1 21 hrs ago #16

Elect more moderates this year so we can have more of this! DJ Synikus Makisimus 20 hrs ago #17

I absolutely hate this EnergizedLib 20 hrs ago #18

Yeah, and I'm so sick of my vote being taken for granted. FoxNewsSucks 20 hrs ago #33

The so-called leadership is worse than useless. dalton99a 19 hrs ago #40

OUT WITH THE SECRET POLICE PARAMILITARY GARB. usonian 20 hrs ago #21

Masks are used to TERRORIZE. no masks!!! IcyPeas 20 hrs ago #22

I'm unsure I agree with the headlines on this. mzmolly 20 hrs ago #24

There is no "softening on masks". FascismIsDeath 20 hrs ago #25

I think the masks are unfortunately necessary gulliver 20 hrs ago #26

Why should ICE be permitted masks thucythucy 20 hrs ago #31

They are being targeted in an organized way gulliver 20 hrs ago #35

Law enforcement has always been a relatively risky profession. thucythucy 19 hrs ago #37

But we have "law enforcement" using cheap IT to track and attack citizens. THAT is where the law is breaking down. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #58

WTF?????????????? FoxNewsSucks 20 hrs ago #34

No. 0rganism 16 hrs ago #51

You're actually defending ICE masks? aocommunalpunch 14 hrs ago #55

Yup. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #59

The police do not wear masks pinkstarburst 9 hrs ago #64

It's a very difficult problem gulliver 8 hrs ago #65

How about we also demand, before any money is approved, thucythucy 20 hrs ago #29

Real negotiations would start with disarming ICEholes Hassler 19 hrs ago #38

Also getting to dress up in their cosplay "Tactical" costumes that they bought with the money AZJonnie 16 hrs ago #49

Damn Cirsium 19 hrs ago #43

trump is wasting huge amounts of tax payer money for his own powerr and enjoyment. C Moon 18 hrs ago #45

I can't believe that people are discussing negotiating with the fascists! ! Bread and Circuses 18 hrs ago #46

Interesting that you specifically mentioned Chris Murphy EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #52

Seems like he had to mitigate the gaffe by restating the fact that masks should be prohibited by law. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #62

I'm sick of them malaise 15 hrs ago #53

Shocking I tell you! luv2fly 14 hrs ago #54

Amen. And if you can't manage any guts, fucking retire. Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #63

Arguing about the arrangement of the deck chairs on the titanic Blue Owl 7 hrs ago #66

This should be the RED LINE flying-skeleton 2 hrs ago #69