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gab13by13

(31,695 posts)
6. Here's the deal,
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:01 PM
Feb 4

Democrats will get pummeled if they say abolish ICE, there's another way.

DHS funding expires Feb. 13th, if Democrats were to just demand that the Gestapo goons must follow the law, such as having local and state police be allowed to investigate the Good/Pretti killings and any other shootings, with full access to evidence collected by the Feds, guess what, Congressional Magats will not agree to that. Then let the funding expire and blame Magats for not agreeing to reasonable rules.

Democrats have the upper hand here if they stay strong, but Schumer and Jeffries are off to an awful start.

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This isn't even a negotiation leftstreet Feb 4 #1
Here's the deal, gab13by13 Feb 4 #6
i think a lot more ppl r sick of the 'moderates' than the 'radicals'. mopinko Feb 4 #13
You couldn't be more right FoxNewsSucks Feb 4 #32
I think Dante's lowest circle of hell is for moderates. ananda Feb 5 #36
Moderates are the people pushing Bettie Feb 5 #57
Overton Window ananda Feb 5 #60
Yep, what is currently called "the far left" Bettie Feb 5 #61
Would they? Cirsium Feb 5 #42
Consider that the Republicans could correctly argue both Obama and Biden used ICE karynnj Feb 5 #67
Here in farm country Cirsium Feb 5 #68
Said "pummeling" certainly would have been the case a year ago, now "abolish ICE" seems the sane, moderate position 0rganism Feb 5 #50
Exactly Cirsium Feb 5 #41
I'd start with dismantling DHS tishaLA Feb 5 #44
K&R spanone Feb 4 #2
We should be saying, "You guarantee there'll be no more murders, kidnappings, illegal entries, Scrivener7 Feb 4 #3
Democrats should have Congressional Magats by the short hairs. gab13by13 Feb 4 #12
Me too. Again. Scrivener7 Feb 4 #15
no masks wear a badge creon Feb 4 #4
Some of their uniforms only say POLICE, gab13by13 Feb 4 #8
that is wrong creon Feb 5 #56
Who is giving them such horrible advice? Chasstev365 Feb 4 #5
I don't want any softening on this. Takket Feb 4 #7
dumb ass david axelrod is warning mopinko Feb 4 #9
F Axelrod. We don't need ICE like we need a police force. mzmolly Feb 4 #11
personally, i understood it. mopinko Feb 4 #20
I understood it, too. But it had to be explained as you note. mzmolly Feb 4 #23
The Democrats are using the same playbook AZProgressive Feb 4 #27
And at the same time, Steve Bannon is saying ICE mzmolly Feb 4 #28
It's OK for protesters to hold up signs that say Abolish ICE gab13by13 Feb 4 #19
Good plan!! mzmolly Feb 4 #30
I agree with your take on this thread AZJonnie Feb 5 #48
Effn weak leadership vapor2 Feb 4 #10
The article that started the hysteria that led to more Democratic bashing *literally* included Murphy. W_HAMILTON Feb 4 #14
I'm waving my ABOLISH SCHUMER protest sign in front of the computer, muttering personal insults at Democrats, betsuni Feb 5 #39
Yeah, I asked WHY The OP in That Thread Left OUT THIS PART? Cha Feb 5 #47
K&R red dog 1 Feb 4 #16
Elect more moderates this year so we can have more of this! DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 4 #17
I absolutely hate this EnergizedLib Feb 4 #18
Yeah, and I'm so sick of my vote being taken for granted. FoxNewsSucks Feb 5 #33
The so-called leadership is worse than useless. dalton99a Feb 5 #40
OUT WITH THE SECRET POLICE PARAMILITARY GARB. usonian Feb 4 #21
Masks are used to TERRORIZE. no masks!!! IcyPeas Feb 4 #22
I'm unsure I agree with the headlines on this. mzmolly Feb 4 #24
There is no "softening on masks". FascismIsDeath Feb 4 #25
I think the masks are unfortunately necessary gulliver Feb 4 #26
Why should ICE be permitted masks thucythucy Feb 4 #31
They are being targeted in an organized way gulliver Feb 5 #35
Law enforcement has always been a relatively risky profession. thucythucy Feb 5 #37
But we have "law enforcement" using cheap IT to track and attack citizens. THAT is where the law is breaking down. Scrivener7 Feb 5 #58
WTF?????????????? FoxNewsSucks Feb 5 #34
No. 0rganism Feb 5 #51
You're actually defending ICE masks? aocommunalpunch Feb 5 #55
Yup. Scrivener7 Feb 5 #59
The police do not wear masks pinkstarburst Feb 5 #64
It's a very difficult problem gulliver Feb 5 #65
How about we also demand, before any money is approved, thucythucy Feb 4 #29
Real negotiations would start with disarming ICEholes Hassler Feb 5 #38
Also getting to dress up in their cosplay "Tactical" costumes that they bought with the money AZJonnie Feb 5 #49
Damn Cirsium Feb 5 #43
trump is wasting huge amounts of tax payer money for his own powerr and enjoyment. C Moon Feb 5 #45
I can't believe that people are discussing negotiating with the fascists! ! Bread and Circuses Feb 5 #46
Interesting that you specifically mentioned Chris Murphy EdmondDantes_ Feb 5 #52
Seems like he had to mitigate the gaffe by restating the fact that masks should be prohibited by law. Scrivener7 Feb 5 #62
I'm sick of them malaise Feb 5 #53
Shocking I tell you! luv2fly Feb 5 #54
Amen. And if you can't manage any guts, fucking retire. Joinfortmill Feb 5 #63
Arguing about the arrangement of the deck chairs on the titanic Blue Owl Feb 5 #66
This should be the RED LINE flying-skeleton Feb 5 #69
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