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Cirsium

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30. You've got to be kidding
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 01:58 PM
Jan 30

Stereotyping Nazis? "Othering" Nazis? Hating Nazis? That is your worry? Such a persecuted class of people.

The Ukrainian Hilfswillige - they weren't Nazi party members. Is it OK with you if we criticize them, or would that be intellectually lazy? We wouldn't want to stereotype them just because they helped the Nazis and committed mass murder.

How about the middle aged urban German police - "ordinary men" as described by historian Christopher R. Browning? Would it be unfair to them if we called them Nazis?

Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/647492.Ordinary_Men

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Nazis showed their faces LetMyPeopleVote Jan 28 #1
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a fully loaded SuperSoaker (tm)... ret5hd Jan 28 #7
Not unless.... SergeStorms Jan 28 #9
That is Marlon Brando from the 1958 movie The Young Lions. irisblue Jan 28 #11
Why is this person showing a photograph of Marlon Brando, and more importantly... malthaussen Jan 28 #18
The myth of the clean Wehrmacht Cirsium Jan 28 #19
Has nothing to do with the "myth" malthaussen Jan 29 #23
I'm surprised Cirsium Jan 29 #25
It's like calling all US Military personnel "Republicans." malthaussen Jan 30 #29
You've got to be kidding Cirsium Jan 30 #30
Ya know, I don't think we're going to come to a meeting of minds on this. malthaussen Jan 30 #31
Okey dokey Cirsium Jan 30 #32
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The effect and why this is important Cirsium Jan 29 #26
That one pierces narrow and deep. Torchlight Jan 28 #2
Ouch leftstreet Jan 28 #4
Nailed it malaise Jan 28 #5
I wonder if covid masking bucolic_frolic Jan 28 #6
If the Jan 6ers had masked up .... underpants Jan 28 #8
I think they learned from that... Wednesdays Jan 28 #10
The doxxing of the Jan 6ers Jilly_in_VA Jan 29 #27
Was pert of... 2naSalit Jan 28 #12
I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Jan 28 #13
Those who believe we have already become a fascist nation should consider that the reason the Gestapo and SS didn't Martin68 Jan 28 #14
And there's no delusion that Trump is starting a 1000 year reich EdmondDantes_ Jan 28 #15
As true as all of that is... underpants Jan 28 #16
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Yes, I've noticed that. malthaussen Jan 28 #17
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Or Proud Li'l Boys Jilly_in_VA Jan 29 #28
Dregs is Dregs. Kid Berwyn Jan 30 #33
That's a great read. How long ago was that? underpants Jan 30 #34
2008. Where does the time go? Kid Berwyn Jan 31 #35
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