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3. And don't forget the "Russia is winning and Ukraine's loss is inevitable" meme that is being pushed 24/7 ...

Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:39 AM

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…. by the right, much of our media, and the GOP.

Simple peace deal first step, Russia goes home. Anything else is crap.

The Russian written “peace deal” that Trump is pushing has the following:

Ukraine surrenders 20% of its lands to Russia.
Something like 2.5 to 3 million Ukrainian citizens will become permanent subjects of Russian rule.
Russia gets to keep the 25,000 + Ukrainian children they kidnapped.
Russia and Musk get to keep the rare earth minerals that are under Ukrainian land.
Russia gets to walk away from its war crimes.

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I Want To Remind People Of A Russian Propaganda Narrative [View all] gab13by13 Yesterday OP

Ukraine would win relatively fast if it wasnt for the crazy mango. Dave Bowman Yesterday #1

Ukraine needs weapons to win Norrrm Yesterday #2

And don't forget the "Russia is winning and Ukraine's loss is inevitable" meme that is being pushed 24/7 ... Botany Yesterday #3

Good points, however you might want to edit for clarity Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #4

And when someone writes, "we should be using the money for something here at home instead of sending it to Ukraine" Walleye Yesterday #5

Also don't believe it when you read it here from supposed "war experts". BannonsLiver Yesterday #6

Also, make no mistake, gab13by13 Yesterday #7

Russia's economy is in dire condition. Irish_Dem Yesterday #8