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patphil

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14. It's sad that you have to critcize in such a derrogatory way that which you don't beleive in and have no experience of.

Reply to Alephy (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 17, 2025, 09:42 PM

Friday

I've spent most of my adult life engaged in spiritual matters, and I've had innumerable experience that have taken me well beyond what you think can only be experienced in extreme states, such hallucination, starvation, or severe pain.
None of these extreme states were needed for me to do this.
But then, logic will never take you there.
I do agree with you though on one point, with some modification. That of which you know nothing, you should not be quick to criticize.

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Lol! Blues Heron Friday #2

Now ask it markodochartaigh Friday #3

Artificial Intelligence is much larger than just LLMs. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Friday #4

"Hallucinations" seems like an overly dramatic word for mistakes. enough Friday #5

Mistake is not a world that means speak easy Friday #7

There is an intangible aspect to human consciousness that AI can never faithfully reproduce. patphil Friday #6

There is also something more tangible - fundamental uncertainty. speak easy Friday #8

There is no spooky-woo to human consciousness. It is simply emergent behaviour Bernardo de La Paz Friday #9

This is a brilliant post Alephy Friday #10

spooky-woo? What's that? patphil Friday #11

Spooky-woo is this: Alephy Friday #12

It's sad that you have to critcize in such a derrogatory way that which you don't beleive in and have no experience of. patphil Friday #14

I apologize if I offended you Alephy Friday #16

Apology accepted. Perhaps a little over reaction on both sides. patphil Friday #18

There is no binary state of being conscious vs not being conscious. Bernardo de La Paz Friday #17

I don't tell people what to think. I find that to be a worthless and thankless endeavor. patphil Friday #19

Again, I ask, what is this "more" you speak of. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #20

Considering the smarter experts on AI have been pointing out this fundamental problem with LLMs highplainsdem Friday #13

It's not "admitting" anything. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #15

When you scrape the internet to train your LLM... tinrobot Saturday #21

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL" Swede Saturday #22

"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that" speak easy Saturday #23