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12. Weird... Involuntary Lethal Injection Is What Happened To Obviously Deranged Charlie Kirk And They're Pissed About It...
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:34 PM
Sep 13

Involuntary.
Lethal.
Injection.

This is literally the T4 Euthanasia Program in Nazi Germany that targeted disabled and institutionalized patients, deeming them to be "life unworthy of life".

It was named "T4" for the coordinating office's address at Tiergartenstrasse 4 in Berlin.
This secret operation, authorized by Adolf Hitler in 1939, killed an estimated 250,000 to 300,000 victims before the war ended. The methods and personnel of the T4 program were later instrumental in the organization and implementation of the Holocaust.

The T4 program was part of the Nazi regime's broader policy of "racial hygiene" and eugenics, which sought to "purify" the German population.

The Nazis promoted the idea of a genetically "pure" Aryan race and targeted people with hereditary conditions or disabilities as genetically defective.

Propaganda portrayed people with disabilities as a financial drain on the state, referring to them as "burdensome lives" and "useless eaters". The program's administrators calculated the money saved by exterminating patients.

Hitler justified the killings by saying that "wartime is the best time for the elimination of the incurably ill".

To carry out the murders, T4 administrators created a secret bureaucratic structure.

Officials distributed questionnaires to public health authorities, hospitals, and nursing homes to identify patients fitting the criteria. The forms gave the misleading impression of a data-gathering exercise.

T4 staff established six killing centers in Germany and Austria: Bernburg, Brandenburg, Grafeneck, Hadamar, Hartheim, and Sonnenstein.

Victims were transported to these centers in buses with blacked-out windows under the pretense of receiving special care. There, they were led to gas chambers disguised as showers and killed with carbon monoxide.

Families received fake death certificates citing a fabricated cause of death and urns with ashes that were randomly chosen from the bodies of cremated victims.

Before the gas chambers were set up for adults, the regime killed disabled children with lethal drug overdoses and starvation in designated "children's killing wards". After the centralized gas killings ceased, lethal injections and starvation continued in a more decentralized way across institutions until 1945.

Despite the Nazis' attempts at secrecy, the program became an "open secret" within Germany, leading to public resistance.

Bishop von Galen: In August 1941, Catholic Bishop Clemens August Graf von Galen gave sermons publicly denouncing the killings, which led to a widespread protest movement.

Due to the protests, Hitler officially called a halt to the centralized T4 gassings in August 1941.

Despite the official cancellation, killings of people with disabilities continued covertly and became more decentralized in clinics and hospitals, utilizing lethal injection and starvation.

The infrastructure and personnel of the T4 program were later used to develop and staff the extermination camps of Operation Reinhard and the wider Holocaust. Many of the same medical professionals who oversaw the T4 killings were transferred to oversee the genocide of the Jews.

Fuck Fascists!

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How is this not domestic terrorism? dlk Sep 13 #1
The old "Final Solution". Midnight Writer Sep 13 #2
Are we supposed to just politely debate this moral atrocity? DBoon Sep 13 #3
NO DrMJG10 Sep 13 #16
Severely errant thinking in this one, sheesh! Clouds Passing Sep 13 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Sep 13 #5
Oh please... whathehell Sep 13 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Sep 13 #37
Fail. Look that up in the dictionary. whathehell Sep 15 #56
The shocking part, to me, is that I'm not shocked. Mister Ed Sep 13 #6
I'm not shocked, either, particularly because "Fox and Friends" is... keep_left Sep 13 #25
Why stop with homeless people? patphil Sep 13 #7
They have gone insane. kentuck Sep 13 #8
Yep............. Lovie777 Sep 13 #9
Um, is Brian Kilmeade an "Evangelist Christian"? whathehell Sep 13 #29
Brian Kilmeade is Catholic. Mariana Sep 13 #43
Will they aggressively protest and push back on this? No. Silently complicit is complicit. Lucky Luciano Sep 14 #53
Not only are the words appalling but . . . peggysue2 Sep 13 #10
Disgusting. spanone Sep 13 #11
Weird... Involuntary Lethal Injection Is What Happened To Obviously Deranged Charlie Kirk And They're Pissed About It... MayReasonRule Sep 13 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Sep 13 #13
It seems like that statement should be actionable. rubbersole Sep 13 #18
Legally? Prairie_Seagull Sep 13 #36
What he said should definitely be a firing offense nt gulliver Sep 13 #24
Well, his name does start with Kil... 🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants Sep 13 #14
Pro-Life? Stpaoulboy Sep 13 #15
He's going for an extra l/L in his name: Killmeade. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 13 #17
This needs to go viral so bad this fuck gets shit canned. It is possible to fight back, you just gotta be LOUD!! n/t Cheezoholic Sep 13 #19
But Kilmeade is such a good xtian!!!!! kimbutgar Sep 13 #20
Fox and Frauds advocates organized mass murder, and no Republican even says, "huh?" DFW Sep 13 #22
His couch mates didn't even skip a beat either. chowder66 Sep 13 #23
Because they had read the script for the show. Mariana Sep 13 #45
I keep forgetting they are only pro-birth, not pro life. surfered Sep 13 #26
Big brother could turn them into food. Irish_Dem Sep 13 #27
The worst part is that there would many volunteers to give the injections Ping Tung Sep 13 #28
There are many homeless vets. Many are there because of military trauma. Who put them there? twodogsbarking Sep 13 #30
What a disgusting piece of shit that guy is. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 13 #31
Saying this is ok, but none dare speak ill of Charlie Kirk w/o fear of retribution? herding cats Sep 13 #32
A New Drink joho260 Sep 13 #33
And yet the GOP had the nerve to say that Democrats needed to tone down their rhetoric. llmart Sep 13 #34
And NO consequences from the FCC! Bread and Circuses Sep 13 #35
Euthanizing the mentally ill.... Bayard Sep 13 #38
Okay so I am not watching this senseandsensibility Sep 13 #39
Not a peep sarisataka Sep 13 #41
Wow. Speechless. senseandsensibility Sep 13 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Sep 13 #40
First FOX normalized the Big Lie. Kid Berwyn Sep 13 #42
Don't they need an awful lot of "ovens" for the dead? They can't just leave all the bodies laying on the street for the LiberalArkie Sep 13 #46
"A Modest Proposal" from Kilmeade... LudwigPastorius Sep 13 #47
First, I felt sick seeing this. duhneece Sep 13 #48
As Tom Morello put on his guitar: Queso Delicioso Sep 13 #49
America needs a final solution for 2025 90-percent Sep 14 #50
Brian, you should be the first to give an injection to a homeless person. Do it on camara. Hotler Sep 14 #51
Hitler's solution Beck23 Sep 14 #52
You first, Kilmeade. calimary Sep 14 #54
"Why did it have to get to this point?" Brainfodder Sep 14 #55
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