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skypilot

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24. I never paid him much attention but...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:45 PM
Sep 12

...then I came across a video, either here or on X, where he is "debating" a student about guns and the Second Amendment. At one point he declares that we could prevent school shootings by having armed guards at schools and that mass shootings don't happen at sports stadiums because of the armed guards stationed there. This, of course, completely ignores the fact that mass shootings don't happen at stadiums (at least not so far) because the general public cannot enter with any firearms, just as they can't board a plane or enter a courtroom or govt building with one. He was clearly trying to advocate for 2nd Amendment rights without acknowledging all of the instances in which those rights are quite rightly limited and how that also prevents mass shootings.

He struck me as a smug idiot who was not as smart as he thought he was but was older and more media savvy and slippery than the young college students he was addressing. Another JD Vance in the making.

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He was not brilliant, except to the particularly dull. He was not interesting, RockRaven Sep 12 #1
That garbage appeals to really horrible people. Klarkashton Sep 12 #2
It is clear to those of us who aren't fooled. yellow dahlia Sep 12 #9
And another rwnj that couldn't be bothered with actually completing his time in college. the nelm Sep 12 #25
ummm it is utah. one might think this crowd is not naieve but is already into his crap nt msongs Sep 12 #3
Surprisingly (to me) Utah is only the 17th whitest state Bluetus Sep 12 #32
Yeah, I never heard exactly WHO he was debating. Brenda Sep 12 #4
He's been doing these same things for years. Klarkashton Sep 12 #6
Oh, I see. Not reallllly a debate. Brenda Sep 12 #11
Exactly! What debate? ananda Sep 12 #16
I wish hell had more than nine rings. Irish_Dem Sep 12 #5
Any time he had to debate people who knew what they were doing... regnaD kciN Sep 12 #7
"never debate a Nazi" no good ever comes from it. Klarkashton Sep 12 #8
As the adage goes... regnaD kciN Sep 12 #13
That was my thinking Johonny Sep 12 #10
That Was Very Interesting DET Sep 12 #34
Here is their debate, uninterrupted reACTIONary Saturday #41
Being a con man and a gaslighter is too often rewarded...nowadays. yellow dahlia Sep 12 #12
His very last two remarks were flippant non-answers. John1956PA Sep 12 #14
That's the best he could do. He was about to go on his Klarkashton Sep 12 #17
Well said proud patriot Sep 12 #15
But Ezra Klein likes his style. Hassler Sep 12 #18
Ezra is a keyboard guy making up shit he thinks Klarkashton Sep 12 #21
That is, azureblue Sep 12 #19
So Kirk didn't post that one I assume. Klarkashton Sep 12 #20
I look at him as a lieutenant. The Grand Illuminist Sep 12 #22
He is in "a better place" a freezer. Klarkashton Sep 12 #23
I never paid him much attention but... skypilot Sep 12 #24
hmmm Quazie Sep 12 #30
Honestly, I don't know why... skypilot Sep 12 #37
well, for one thing.... RussBLib Saturday #39
Thank you. skypilot Saturday #40
Charlie Kirk may have been many things, but an idiot is not one of them Gliderguy Sep 12 #26
Was an idiot leading idiots. Klarkashton Sep 12 #29
oookay Quazie Sep 12 #31
Enjoy your stay gay texan Sep 12 #35
then go eat it, by all means Jack Valentino Saturday #42
He was a master debater like Cartman JT45242 Sep 12 #27
As an aside, I will mention that evangelical ministers lure naive . . . John1956PA Sep 12 #28
Cults are very effective in this country. Klarkashton Sep 12 #33
Outdoor lying is what it was. A Krasnov surrogate sent to go tell Krasnov's lies GoodRaisin Sep 12 #36
He didn't invent anything new. It was stale right wing Klarkashton Sep 12 #38
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