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Bluetus

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14. I'd venture that 98% of Democrats could not have recognized Kirk
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:59 PM
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in a line-up before yesterday. I suppose his name was better known among the LGBT community because apparently he was a real fountain of LGBT hate speech. And maybe we will find that provoked an angry person to take matters into his or her own hands. I'm sure none of us condone any kind of political violence. We are supposed to be a nation of laws, and those laws are how we are supposed to settle our differences. When the "rule of law" no longer works, it is easy to understand how a person could decide to act on their own.

But Kirk just wasn't relevant to most Democrats. Maybe he should have been, but he wasn't. I will tell you whom he WAS relevant to. There are various factions jockeying to take over power in the post-Trump world, which may come sooner than most people think. Trump is looking and acting very bad these days. Those factions are (namely): the young Nazis (think Charlie Kirk), the billionaires and tech bros (think Musk, Theil et al), the traditional Nazis (think Bannon and Miller), the old money polluters (think Koch Industries), our national enemies (think Putin, Xi, and Kim, and the Christo-fascists (think the Heritage Foundation and the worst caricature of every teevee preacher you have ever seen.)

These are all different factions. They lined up behind Trump because he was able to give them what they wanted (Jesus in schools, all the guns we could ever want, torture of brown people, wealth beyond imagination, and the end of the NATO alliance.) But in the post-Trump world, they have very little in common. They all have strong motives for eliminating their rivals. Keep this in mind as we see events develop over the next few weeks.

And also remember that there were numerous factions that wanted John F Kennedy out of the way and 63 years later, that cover-up is still strong. We joke about Putin's enemies having trouble keeping their balance around windows in tall buildings, but American history has plenty of examples of the same things.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Random Person Thursday #1
You are correct. I will keep my mourning and compassion for others and certainly not for Mr. Kirk. Polly Hennessey Thursday #2
I morn for those he contributed to their suffering by his hateful mindset and words. marble falls Thursday #5
Reminds me of something ... marble falls Thursday #3
I seriously doubt that anyone other than Trump supporters are... walkingman Thursday #4
They may mis his hate, but I doubt they mourn him much. These morons are as wraped up in themselves ... marble falls Thursday #6
It's a pisser that he's being treated like a saint. Klarkashton Thursday #7
And, having learned nothing, how long before another steps in to take his place - spewing obnoxious Marie Marie Thursday #8
If you have zero empathy and zero integrity, USS_Dauntless Thursday #13
Kick dalton99a Thursday #9
Not many approve of how Muammar Gaddafi died, but not many approve of him either Torchlight Thursday #10
Charlie who? roamer65 Thursday #11
Neither am I. But I will mourn the devastation these fucks have done to civil discourse, shooter included n/t Cheezoholic Thursday #12
I'd venture that 98% of Democrats could not have recognized Kirk Bluetus Thursday #14
And I am totally disinclined. marble falls Thursday #15
It is a bad thing for us Cirsium Thursday #16
Why is the MSM calling this an assassination? Billsdaughter Thursday #17
K&R...nt Wounded Bear Thursday #18
I'm with Clarence Darrow on this one. Beacool Thursday #19
So, i have this to offer: if its really that big an issue now, magas should be on board with firearms control laws. Volaris Thursday #20
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