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Irish_Dem

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132. Good points. I assume sniper had a wind meter.

Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:54 AM

Sep 11

It is going to be hard to guess wind speed and direction in such an accurate way
especially at that distance. He had to only fire once to get the money shot.
He is either very lucky or had considerable skill, experience and equipment.

Yes of course. How many Americans have experience accurately killing human beings
at 200 years?

Yes we will know more as time goes by. If this man is at large one month from now with
no clues, we are looking at a professional. At the very least military training.

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It is peculiar that the shooter escaped. [View all] drray23 Sep 10 OP

Just a thought..... FarPoint Sep 10 #1

A trained pro, who unlike the trump would be assassin IMO, had admin backing... brush Sep 10 #39

Yes professional training. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #2

and an overdose of confusing statements malaise Sep 10 #5

The shooter also had some good luck because of the incompetence? Irish_Dem Sep 10 #10

His plan theirs malaise Sep 10 #11

Very good point. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #20

You know bdamomma Sep 11 #141

The arrest of the person at the scene for obstruction was very stupid Prairie Gates Sep 10 #26

Yes. Police should have been interviewing all witnesses asap. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #43

Too bad Trump didn't hire him for his fake assassination attempt.. travelingthrulife Sep 11 #127

It is possible that both events were similarly choreographed. taxi Sep 11 #138

Or Halfway to Moscow (nt) AZJonnie Sep 10 #106

Doesn't help that the FBI director and Kirk have identical ideology Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #41

Which is hilarious given the FBI director's ethnicity malaise Sep 11 #119

Perfect setup, with him on a raised platform alone. colorado_ufo Sep 10 #84

The shooter must have known this in advance? Irish_Dem Sep 11 #116

One more thing . . . colorado_ufo Sep 11 #142

Looks like he had at least one person running cover for him sboatcar Sep 10 #96

Seems like maybe just an innocent witness to me Jack Valentino Sep 10 #98

The obstruction of justice charge after the interview and all that though sboatcar Sep 10 #101

Do you know the details of the obstruction? Irish_Dem Sep 11 #115

I don't know sboatcar Sep 11 #122

Yes the shooter had some training. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #123

Have you any idea how many Utah sportsmen could have made that shot? Bobstandard Sep 10 #108

The public assassination of a human being is different from shooting a deer. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #114

And 200 yards is still a very long shot Johnny2X2X Sep 11 #125

Good points. I assume sniper had a wind meter. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #132

Sounds like they may have found the gun Johnny2X2X Sep 11 #133

Yes, bad mistake if true. An amateur who got lucky. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #135

All very true, thankfully. nt Bobstandard Sep 11 #130

That seems to be the consensus Cosmocat Sep 11 #124

Deer hunters- lol! Come on man, this was no weekend warrior. Blues Heron Sep 11 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Sep 10 #3

Read this SheltieLover Sep 10 #4

Very interesting Just_Vote_Dem Sep 10 #6

Could be SheltieLover Sep 10 #16

My thoughts exactly. strongermessage Sep 10 #36

One of my thoughts, as well. yellow dahlia Sep 10 #13

And read this along with it... ancianita Sep 10 #46

Ty! SheltieLover Sep 10 #49

Holy hell! SheltieLover Sep 10 #50

My words exactly! Delphinus Sep 10 #51

Scary! SheltieLover Sep 10 #57

Scary to contemplate, but that's the kind of stuff putin type dictators do. ancianita Sep 10 #54

Post it pls! SheltieLover Sep 10 #56

Okay... I put it over in GD if you want a look... ancianita Sep 10 #59

Ty! SheltieLover Sep 10 #60

Nick LaLota is my congressman Danmel Sep 10 #58

I'm sorry SheltieLover Sep 10 #63

It's mortifying Danmel Sep 10 #77

JFC niyad Sep 10 #68

Sounds like it could be a paid PatSeg Sep 10 #62

Sure does! SheltieLover Sep 10 #65

"a clean get away screams pro to me" -- absolutely! ancianita Sep 10 #71

Prob already on his way back to russia SheltieLover Sep 10 #72

LOL ... or FLORIDA! ancianita Sep 10 #74

Is there a difference? SheltieLover Sep 10 #75

I hope so. I'm exiled here. ancianita Sep 10 #78

I'm sorry SheltieLover Sep 10 #79

Parters in suffering through the historical sickness of the South. ancianita Sep 10 #83

Stay safe! SheltieLover Sep 11 #137

200 yards isn't all that difficult with a good rifle and scope.... lastlib Sep 10 #76

Correct sarisataka Sep 10 #90

Yeah and with just ONE shot! PatSeg Sep 11 #136

Right. H2O Man Sep 10 #64

Yup SheltieLover Sep 10 #67

I don't rule out a Russian agent True Dough Sep 10 #73

That is a distinct possibility. roamer65 Sep 10 #92

So Agent Krasnov the corpulent?? thomski64 Sep 10 #105

K&R UTUSN Sep 10 #7

Just Like the 3 Fake Hobos Who Killed JFK MrWowWow Sep 10 #8

Interesting angle that I had never thought of. yourout Sep 10 #15

Or... speaking of motive... ancianita Sep 10 #70

Yes! Very different... and Cha Sep 10 #9

I just realized... A Sniper? nt Cha Sep 10 #12

Read this, Cha SheltieLover Sep 10 #18

I did.. I Rec your other post that Cha Sep 10 #22

Mahalo, Cha SheltieLover Sep 10 #27

Was Kirk seen as a threat to Trump in any way? kentuck Sep 10 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Sep 10 #17

There were also hundreds (thousands?) of people to blend into after. Ace Rothstein Sep 10 #81

Check the roof drains. Xolodno Sep 11 #111

Yep. Who benefits. jeffreyi Sep 10 #19

Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 10 #29

Patel won't find him. Baitball Blogger Sep 10 #21

There are cameras all over every college campus Prairie Gates Sep 10 #31

Fact orangecrush Sep 10 #69

Maybe he's been told not to find him tinrobot Sep 10 #89

I'm not surprised BannonsLiver Sep 10 #23

Patel is on this like white on rice Tribetime Sep 10 #24

Needles to say, I see what you did there.... erronis Sep 10 #47

And I wouldn't be surprised if it were a pro-Trump covert op. ananda Sep 10 #25

Something like martial law? Deuxcents Sep 10 #34

With a Reichstag Fire energy to it. ananda Sep 10 #37

This is my number one fear.. Deuxcents Sep 10 #42

I totally agree. strongermessage Sep 10 #40

This was a pro Johnny2X2X Sep 10 #28

Heard the same about Mangione Prairie Gates Sep 10 #33

He didn't have secret service Puppyjive Sep 10 #97

Pretty freaking obviously so. marble falls Sep 10 #30

Indeed. Was he 'unalived' because he was bounding TACO to release Epstein files Bread and Circuses Sep 10 #32

This is a great thread, no heavy thinking to do, just rec here or there. /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 10 #35

Unfortunately, that is the case. (I rec'd yours....) erronis Sep 10 #48

I recc'd your post PJMcK Sep 11 #128

Someone was thoughtful, careful, and well-prepared Vogon_Glory Sep 10 #38

It's just like all the sniper movies Tree Lady Sep 10 #44

One assumes a white man. nt mcar Sep 10 #45

Non-white in Orem, Utah, he'd have stood out, probably tackled to the ground immediately Ocelot II Sep 10 #52

That's what I'm thinking too mcar Sep 10 #53

Take a look at the video of the crowd. mnhtnbb Sep 10 #85

What's next? Trump orders Martial Law across the nation? Emile Sep 10 #55

I don't find it too surprising. bluedigger Sep 10 #61

true, it was not the secret service with an extensive protective net. drray23 Sep 10 #66

The shooter may have planned everything out, including escape Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #80

They have a video of a guy double timing it on a nearby roof just after the shooting Prairie Gates Sep 10 #87

Might or might not be the shooter spinbaby Sep 11 #117

For sure Prairie Gates Sep 11 #118

One shot from 200 yards. Iggo Sep 10 #82

Not a difficult shot sarisataka Sep 10 #86

Many hunters are capable of doing such a shot Kaleva Sep 10 #94

Why is it peculiar? sarisataka Sep 10 #88

Probably a FSB or GRU operation. roamer65 Sep 10 #91

This guy wasn't a mass shooter Kaleva Sep 10 #93

Trump's Horst Wessel? N/T tonekat Sep 10 #95

I've been thinking that all day. Ned Low Sep 10 #100

Does seem like a professional hit, but what are the motives Beringia Sep 10 #99

Obviously premeditated iemanja Sep 10 #102

Well we've got Patel and Bongino at FBI, Blondie at DOJ ToxMarz Sep 10 #103

Thoughts: ReRe Sep 10 #104

Not really peculiar when it's a non-politician with his own security. Feel Good Inc Sep 10 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 10 #109

Was there heavy security present? Kaleva Sep 10 #110

No there wasn't. Feel Good Inc Sep 11 #112

My thoughts, too - a sharp shooter likely ex- military. Joinfortmill Sep 11 #113

It was a professional hit... dlk Sep 11 #120

My guess is I'll be underwhelmed and unsurprised by who-what-why when they're caught. Torchlight Sep 11 #121

Oswald shot JFK from a distance of 265 ft. and made a clean getaway, he was only caught after he shot and killed sop Sep 11 #129

Yes if Oswald had a car exboyfil Sep 11 #131

Right. For the sake of argument I'm assumimg Oswald was the "lone shooter," and he wasn't "a patsy." sop Sep 11 #134

He got away because no one was looking for him? pwb Sep 11 #139

Premeditated??? bdamomma Sep 11 #140