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H2O Man

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53. It seems you

Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:11 AM

Sep 11

are here quite a bit.

Perhaps you are unaware that what the felon has done since 2025 is not in the Epstein files -- you know, the ones you said had evidence of extortion. That might be because you don't know presidential history. JFK used pressure on the steel industry, LBJ pressured those in Congress. Both of those examples were done for the good of the country, which is obviously very different from when the felon does it for his own selfish agenda. But none of thm are extortion. Words have actual meanings.

While I found the gold gift disgusting -- in fact, far more so than you, because I understand it -- it is not extortion, but rather, one of the signs found in failing empires. It is part of the internal decay documented in Erich Fromm's 1973 classic "The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness." But if you think the felon's 2025 actions are "evidence" of extortion in the Epstein files, I think that book would be way over your head.

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But the MAGA cult and leaders have no shame. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #24

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There is plenty of evidence. But connecting the dots is hard Bluetus Sep 10 #25

Name a single bit H2O Man Sep 10 #45

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Sure! H2O Man Sep 10 #48

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So you don't have anything? H2O Man Sep 10 #50

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Well, of course. somethingshiny Sep 10 #8

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