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kentuck

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14. Was Kirk seen as a threat to Trump in any way?

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:40 PM

Sep 10

We know he was a big supporter of Trump but has he pushed for the Epstein files to be made public lately. At one time, he made a statement that he would have no more to say on it and that he would believe what came from the government.

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It is peculiar that the shooter escaped. [View all] drray23 Sep 10 OP

Just a thought..... FarPoint Sep 10 #1

A trained pro, who unlike the trump would be assassin IMO, had admin backing... brush Sep 10 #39

Yes professional training. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #2

and an overdose of confusing statements malaise Sep 10 #5

The shooter also had some good luck because of the incompetence? Irish_Dem Sep 10 #10

His plan theirs malaise Sep 10 #11

Very good point. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #20

You know bdamomma Sep 11 #141

The arrest of the person at the scene for obstruction was very stupid Prairie Gates Sep 10 #26

Yes. Police should have been interviewing all witnesses asap. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #43

Too bad Trump didn't hire him for his fake assassination attempt.. travelingthrulife Sep 11 #127

It is possible that both events were similarly choreographed. taxi Sep 11 #138

Or Halfway to Moscow (nt) AZJonnie Sep 10 #106

Doesn't help that the FBI director and Kirk have identical ideology Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #41

Which is hilarious given the FBI director's ethnicity malaise Sep 11 #119

Perfect setup, with him on a raised platform alone. colorado_ufo Sep 10 #84

The shooter must have known this in advance? Irish_Dem Sep 11 #116

One more thing . . . colorado_ufo Sep 11 #142

Looks like he had at least one person running cover for him sboatcar Sep 10 #96

Seems like maybe just an innocent witness to me Jack Valentino Sep 10 #98

The obstruction of justice charge after the interview and all that though sboatcar Sep 10 #101

Do you know the details of the obstruction? Irish_Dem Sep 11 #115

I don't know sboatcar Sep 11 #122

Yes the shooter had some training. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #123

Have you any idea how many Utah sportsmen could have made that shot? Bobstandard Sep 10 #108

The public assassination of a human being is different from shooting a deer. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #114

And 200 yards is still a very long shot Johnny2X2X Sep 11 #125

Good points. I assume sniper had a wind meter. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #132

Sounds like they may have found the gun Johnny2X2X Sep 11 #133

Yes, bad mistake if true. An amateur who got lucky. Irish_Dem Sep 11 #135

All very true, thankfully. nt Bobstandard Sep 11 #130

That seems to be the consensus Cosmocat Sep 11 #124

Deer hunters- lol! Come on man, this was no weekend warrior. Blues Heron Sep 11 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Sep 10 #3

Read this SheltieLover Sep 10 #4

Very interesting Just_Vote_Dem Sep 10 #6

Could be SheltieLover Sep 10 #16

My thoughts exactly. strongermessage Sep 10 #36

One of my thoughts, as well. yellow dahlia Sep 10 #13

And read this along with it... ancianita Sep 10 #46

Ty! SheltieLover Sep 10 #49

Holy hell! SheltieLover Sep 10 #50

My words exactly! Delphinus Sep 10 #51

Scary! SheltieLover Sep 10 #57

Scary to contemplate, but that's the kind of stuff putin type dictators do. ancianita Sep 10 #54

Post it pls! SheltieLover Sep 10 #56

Okay... I put it over in GD if you want a look... ancianita Sep 10 #59

Ty! SheltieLover Sep 10 #60

Nick LaLota is my congressman Danmel Sep 10 #58

I'm sorry SheltieLover Sep 10 #63

It's mortifying Danmel Sep 10 #77

JFC niyad Sep 10 #68

Sounds like it could be a paid PatSeg Sep 10 #62

Sure does! SheltieLover Sep 10 #65

"a clean get away screams pro to me" -- absolutely! ancianita Sep 10 #71

Prob already on his way back to russia SheltieLover Sep 10 #72

LOL ... or FLORIDA! ancianita Sep 10 #74

Is there a difference? SheltieLover Sep 10 #75

I hope so. I'm exiled here. ancianita Sep 10 #78

I'm sorry SheltieLover Sep 10 #79

Parters in suffering through the historical sickness of the South. ancianita Sep 10 #83

Stay safe! SheltieLover Sep 11 #137

200 yards isn't all that difficult with a good rifle and scope.... lastlib Sep 10 #76

Correct sarisataka Sep 10 #90

Yeah and with just ONE shot! PatSeg Sep 11 #136

Right. H2O Man Sep 10 #64

Yup SheltieLover Sep 10 #67

I don't rule out a Russian agent True Dough Sep 10 #73

That is a distinct possibility. roamer65 Sep 10 #92

So Agent Krasnov the corpulent?? thomski64 Sep 10 #105

K&R UTUSN Sep 10 #7

Just Like the 3 Fake Hobos Who Killed JFK MrWowWow Sep 10 #8

Interesting angle that I had never thought of. yourout Sep 10 #15

Or... speaking of motive... ancianita Sep 10 #70

Yes! Very different... and Cha Sep 10 #9

I just realized... A Sniper? nt Cha Sep 10 #12

Read this, Cha SheltieLover Sep 10 #18

I did.. I Rec your other post that Cha Sep 10 #22

Mahalo, Cha SheltieLover Sep 10 #27

Was Kirk seen as a threat to Trump in any way? kentuck Sep 10 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Sep 10 #17

There were also hundreds (thousands?) of people to blend into after. Ace Rothstein Sep 10 #81

Check the roof drains. Xolodno Sep 11 #111

Yep. Who benefits. jeffreyi Sep 10 #19

Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 10 #29

Patel won't find him. Baitball Blogger Sep 10 #21

There are cameras all over every college campus Prairie Gates Sep 10 #31

Fact orangecrush Sep 10 #69

Maybe he's been told not to find him tinrobot Sep 10 #89

I'm not surprised BannonsLiver Sep 10 #23

Patel is on this like white on rice Tribetime Sep 10 #24

Needles to say, I see what you did there.... erronis Sep 10 #47

And I wouldn't be surprised if it were a pro-Trump covert op. ananda Sep 10 #25

Something like martial law? Deuxcents Sep 10 #34

With a Reichstag Fire energy to it. ananda Sep 10 #37

This is my number one fear.. Deuxcents Sep 10 #42

I totally agree. strongermessage Sep 10 #40

This was a pro Johnny2X2X Sep 10 #28

Heard the same about Mangione Prairie Gates Sep 10 #33

He didn't have secret service Puppyjive Sep 10 #97

Pretty freaking obviously so. marble falls Sep 10 #30

Indeed. Was he 'unalived' because he was bounding TACO to release Epstein files Bread and Circuses Sep 10 #32

This is a great thread, no heavy thinking to do, just rec here or there. /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 10 #35

Unfortunately, that is the case. (I rec'd yours....) erronis Sep 10 #48

I recc'd your post PJMcK Sep 11 #128

Someone was thoughtful, careful, and well-prepared Vogon_Glory Sep 10 #38

It's just like all the sniper movies Tree Lady Sep 10 #44

One assumes a white man. nt mcar Sep 10 #45

Non-white in Orem, Utah, he'd have stood out, probably tackled to the ground immediately Ocelot II Sep 10 #52

That's what I'm thinking too mcar Sep 10 #53

Take a look at the video of the crowd. mnhtnbb Sep 10 #85

What's next? Trump orders Martial Law across the nation? Emile Sep 10 #55

I don't find it too surprising. bluedigger Sep 10 #61

true, it was not the secret service with an extensive protective net. drray23 Sep 10 #66

The shooter may have planned everything out, including escape Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #80

They have a video of a guy double timing it on a nearby roof just after the shooting Prairie Gates Sep 10 #87

Might or might not be the shooter spinbaby Sep 11 #117

For sure Prairie Gates Sep 11 #118

One shot from 200 yards. Iggo Sep 10 #82

Not a difficult shot sarisataka Sep 10 #86

Many hunters are capable of doing such a shot Kaleva Sep 10 #94

Why is it peculiar? sarisataka Sep 10 #88

Probably a FSB or GRU operation. roamer65 Sep 10 #91

This guy wasn't a mass shooter Kaleva Sep 10 #93

Trump's Horst Wessel? N/T tonekat Sep 10 #95

I've been thinking that all day. Ned Low Sep 10 #100

Does seem like a professional hit, but what are the motives Beringia Sep 10 #99

Obviously premeditated iemanja Sep 10 #102

Well we've got Patel and Bongino at FBI, Blondie at DOJ ToxMarz Sep 10 #103

Thoughts: ReRe Sep 10 #104

Not really peculiar when it's a non-politician with his own security. Feel Good Inc Sep 10 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 10 #109

Was there heavy security present? Kaleva Sep 10 #110

No there wasn't. Feel Good Inc Sep 11 #112

My thoughts, too - a sharp shooter likely ex- military. Joinfortmill Sep 11 #113

It was a professional hit... dlk Sep 11 #120

My guess is I'll be underwhelmed and unsurprised by who-what-why when they're caught. Torchlight Sep 11 #121

Oswald shot JFK from a distance of 265 ft. and made a clean getaway, he was only caught after he shot and killed sop Sep 11 #129

Yes if Oswald had a car exboyfil Sep 11 #131

Right. For the sake of argument I'm assumimg Oswald was the "lone shooter," and he wasn't "a patsy." sop Sep 11 #134

He got away because no one was looking for him? pwb Sep 11 #139

Premeditated??? bdamomma Sep 11 #140