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emulatorloo

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40. Yeah and it is also false bullcrap.

Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:47 AM

Sep 1

Almost as if we’re seeing coordinated talking points designed to depress Dem turnout in 2026.

Note to alerters: am totally not talking about the OP. I think they are honest and acting in good faith.

But I think they are a victim of the bad faith negativity being espoused on social media by ‘influencers’ who want Democrats destroyed for some reason or another.

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The attacks on Ali Velshi's monologue yesterday - "Where's the Party?" are out of line. [View all] yellow dahlia Aug 31 OP

I agree with you, yellow dahlia. I watched Ali Velshi's show and then re- watched it again when posted here Deuxcents Aug 31 #1

Thank you. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #6

Out of line? Really? mcar Aug 31 #2

Agree JustAnotherGen Aug 31 #3

I know.. Really? "out of line".. lol! Ariella Elm Cha Aug 31 #8

Are you kidding? yellow dahlia Aug 31 #13

Journalists JustAnotherGen Sep 1 #44

I did not say journalists can't be criticized. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #48

Based on what i read JustAnotherGen Sep 1 #49

You identified part of the problem - Social Media. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #52

No - I'm not X JustAnotherGen Sep 1 #53

The dominant culture is not aware of what is going on - yes. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #58

I don't care JustAnotherGen Tuesday #154

Ali Velshi isn't Black. Velshi's family comes from India. LeftInTX Tuesday #161

Just one point... Chemical Bill Sep 1 #81

Neither Steve Schmidt nor John Fugelsang are Democrats. N/T lapucelle Wednesday #170

Indeed, you can criticize anyone you want at any time. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #9

Pencil to a gunfight mcar Aug 31 #16

Yeah and it is also false bullcrap. emulatorloo Sep 1 #40

Sorry to disappoint you, other people don't tell me what I think. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #50

Not constructive criticism as you claim that's all you do mcar Sep 1 #59

I'm not 'disappointed' in you. However I agree w bigtree. Your sources are only telling half-truths emulatorloo Tuesday #152

Ariella Elm says Velshi wants to have a Cha Aug 31 #14

I am not sure people on here have read her entire thread on what the dems have actually been doing Bev54 Aug 31 #15

That's a really good suggestion, Bev. Cha Aug 31 #17

I read the whole thread. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #27

Why do I have to read an entire unsubstantiated thread by an influencer to get this info? Ilikepurple Sep 1 #34

Thank you for your salient points. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #63

Why did you have to get news from an influencer? Because "journalist" Ali Velshi sucks at his actual job. lapucelle Sep 1 #102

As does most of the MSM mcar Sep 1 #116

I've never watched. Velshi's performance isn't germane to my point. Ilikepurple Tuesday #165

You asked a question, and I answered it. lapucelle Wednesday #169

Velshi is not the only avenue to get the message out. Ilikepurple Wednesday #174

And not only that... BaronChocula Sep 1 #33

This is what I object to as well mcar Sep 1 #60

Yes! BaronChocula Sep 1 #62

I am not expecting a single armored Democrat. I don't think a superhero yellow dahlia Sep 1 #66

I certainly don't disagree with everything you said BaronChocula Sep 1 #73

Thank you for being willing to listen, yellow dahlia Sep 1 #82

Plus that is not Schmit and Nance's only message mcar Sep 1 #117

Agree. murielm99 Tuesday #153

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #166

Well... sheshe2 Aug 31 #4

"...Ali Velshi wants to talk with Ariella Elm.. " Cha Aug 31 #10

Pretty cool indeed, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 31 #11

Exactly.. Hopefully it will lead to Cha Aug 31 #12

I hope that Velshi follows up LetMyPeopleVote Sep 1 #55

You and " that woman on BlueSky are both right Bobstandard Aug 31 #5

It is quite ok for someone to call out the media, who once again do not provide information to their viewers Bev54 Aug 31 #18

I agree with you, her, and the OP Bobstandard Sep 1 #47

"That woman"? sheshe2 Aug 31 #7

I think both "types" are important for their own reasons BlueSpot Aug 31 #19

I always say the best way to manage a team is to play to various strengths. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #25

Back in February ... alimbalt Aug 31 #20

Fortunately they ignored him mcar Sep 1 #61

Carville is only one guy creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #84

Today's Democrats: A band of hungry, pissed off lions led by a gaggle of sheep. AverageOldGuy Aug 31 #21

You have identified some key points. Communication! Strategy! yellow dahlia Aug 31 #23

Because the speeches from the steps have to find a way creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #85

Some seem to believe we owe fealty iemanja Aug 31 #22

Indeed. Fealty to "party" and to ideology are getting in the way pf solutions. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #24

Nope creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #86

Have you seen the polls about Democratic party favorability? iemanja Sep 1 #89

The party as a whole has bad rating. creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #91

Schumer and those who voted for the CR iemanja Sep 1 #92

What key issues had the DNC told Democrats not to talk about? creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #93

The GOP called Biden and Harris Marxists iemanja Sep 1 #95

I know creeksneakers2 Tuesday #135

Chuck Schumer voted AGAINST the CR, as did every Democrat in the Senate , except for Jeanne Shaheen. lapucelle Wednesday #171

Thank you! I must remember the facts next time that lie shows up. betsuni Wednesday #173

That particular piece of misinformation gets repeated so often lapucelle Wednesday #175

I know there are dems doing important work and responding to the moment. 58Sunliner Aug 31 #26

some dems are already doing a lot? fine, I say..do more..and even more nt msongs Aug 31 #28

Exactly. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #29

I have to say... BWdem4life Aug 31 #30

There is a lot of (unfortunate) history that got us here. yellow dahlia Aug 31 #31

This has been a known and much discussed problem with the Democratic Party for as long as I've been on DU, Crunchy Frog Sep 1 #32

Thank you. We share a concern. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #35

Ali's monologue was brilliant! ClimateChangeisReal Sep 1 #36

Yes but being brilliant and being right are not going to win this war dwayneb Wednesday #172

"Ali is right." J_William_Ryan Sep 1 #37

Exactly!!!!! LeftInTX Sep 1 #39

Rosa Parks found the levers of power at the front of the bus. n/t Chemical Bill Sep 1 #51

you can't shame the shameless. Civil disobedience isn't going to do jack shit to a Republican administration thebigidea Sep 1 #113

Fair point... Chemical Bill Sep 1 #123

Then how have republicans successfully blocked legislation LearnedHand Sep 1 #56

"Democrats need to fight". Al Green got up during Trump's speech and shouted. LeftInTX Sep 1 #38

Thank you! Fighting won't inspire voter stampedes to the polls, lack of yelling won't make voters stay home betsuni Sep 1 #41

Thank you for this mcar Sep 1 #64

If you're not going to stand up for Democracy and the Constitution, don't run for office. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #68

Al Green's district was completely eliminated. Now we're down one less Democratic seat. LeftInTX Sep 1 #71

Wait... Chemical Bill Tuesday #155

Yes! That's the way it is in Texas. They're abusive. LeftInTX Tuesday #159

Believe it or not, yes it appears that is the case. Scrivener7 Tuesday #163

It's so easy MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #138

Al may run in CD 18 next cycle which now includes a great deal of his old district LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #167

Has this been cross posted to... littlemissmartypants Sep 1 #42

I agree. I think the "How Dare You Say More Can Be Done" posse has found their new Emptywheel. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #43

That is absolutely the point. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #45

Yes. One would think our recent experiences would have cured us of believing those influencers Scrivener7 Sep 1 #46

I disagree LetMyPeopleVote Sep 1 #54

I disagree. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #69

Again, I think that you are WRONG LetMyPeopleVote Sep 1 #72

From my perch, it is clear that the "blame game" became an excuse, yellow dahlia Sep 1 #78

Do you have an evidence that fraud occurred? creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #88

For 2024, there is so much data. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #96

Well, I Googled your Election Truth Alliance. creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #131

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #134

Fine with me if you don't respond. creeksneakers2 Tuesday #136

Have you read The Conyers Report? ,n/t Chemical Bill Tuesday #156

That's right creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #87

I see you joined Nov 5, 2024. (Election Day) LeftInTX Sep 1 #75

Three things yellow dahlia Sep 1 #76

where is the coverage of what our leaders are saying EVERYDAY? bigtree Sep 1 #57

Please make this its own OP mcar Sep 1 #65

Yes, please make this an OP! betsuni Sep 1 #67

I applaud your bringing together of information and data. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #70

please bigtree Sep 1 #74

It is not Ali's job to get Dems elected. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #80

lol bigtree Sep 1 #98

You may be conflating politics and journalism. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #100

so is he, and so does the op. I'm not enamored of Velshi. He puts me to sleep. bigtree Sep 1 #101

I'm sorry. As I said in my previous reply - yellow dahlia Sep 1 #103

it's your own assertion that I don't watch him bigtree Sep 1 #105

OMFG! No one in the discussion has said they're not voting for the party that's not fascist. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #107

jesus. bigtree Sep 1 #108

Bingo. sheshe2 Sep 1 #112

big tree, I love you mcar Sep 1 #118

Deaf and obstinate MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #137

Indeed. One is NOT a friend of Democrats... Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #149

What does "meeting the moment" mean? More symbolic vagaries. creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #90

Acting like a war time consigliere. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #94

Vague nothingisms mcar Sep 1 #119

Sounds like one of those "inspirational" business seminars. betsuni Tuesday #139

Or copying and pasting from an online catalog of those tired old inspirational posters Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #151

Nothing specific creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #125

Meeting the moment. Chemical Bill Sep 1 #106

Zelenskyy is a perfect example. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #120

Nothing specific there either. creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #126

Real leaders have that special je ne sais quoi magic (no old people with glasses on their noses, no tweets after church) betsuni Tuesday #140

I don't see a specific objection there. creeksneakers2 Tuesday #146

Guess I'd better add the sarcasm thing. betsuni Tuesday #147

I'll reread it with that in mind. creeksneakers2 Tuesday #148

Democrat-bashers mock Schumer's glasses and Jeffries one tweet mentioning God. betsuni Tuesday #150

You're really big on the whole... Chemical Bill Tuesday #158

Another way to insinuate they're out-of-touch elites sipping champagne cocktails at the Status Quo Bar & Grill betsuni Sep 1 #109

and how effective have these whingers been against republicans as they attack Democrats bigtree Sep 1 #110

This isn't about yellow dahlia... Chemical Bill Tuesday #157

They are caucus leaders, not cheerleaders. There is a huge difference. LeftInTX Sep 1 #127

Thank you. I think people get it in their heads that leaders mean activists for causes they believe betsuni Tuesday #141

I agree with everyone, Make This An OP! sheshe2 Sep 1 #111

WOW, thank you for this post LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #168

In wartime, the losing side must have some vigorous debate. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #77

As always, you bring logic and reason to the debate, ID. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #79

And facts. sheshe2 Sep 1 #121

The few suggestions you actually made were symbolic creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #83

I can respond to all your challenges, but right now it would take time and mental capacity yellow dahlia Sep 1 #97

no answer creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #128

I'm sorry - you're being rude. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #130

I'm sorry if you found me rude creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #132

Now you're calling me a liar? yellow dahlia Sep 1 #133

Nothing forces you to. creeksneakers2 Tuesday #162

Developing a coherent agreed upon strategy WOULD PULL THE PARTY TOGETHER. Irish_Dem Sep 1 #99

Thanks ID. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #104

Research shows that every time a truth bomb hits cult members, some of the peel off from the leader. Irish_Dem Tuesday #142

I'm not asking anybody to shut up. creeksneakers2 Sep 1 #129

I did make a valid argument. Irish_Dem Tuesday #143

I don't see what you say you said creeksneakers2 Tuesday #145

Lower turnout on our side... Chemical Bill Tuesday #160

My sentiments exactly. Gimpyknee Sep 1 #114

Thank you. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #115

It isn't really so many. It is just a few swarming you as so many others have been swarmed in the past. Scrivener7 Sep 1 #122

Thank you for your gracious comment. yellow dahlia Sep 1 #124

TL;DR: Missing moments and holding their members, leaders must be replaced by war time consigliere betsuni Tuesday #144

Small and friendly quibble, i saw him in clip back then saying: " We Are Winning!!" msfiddlestix Tuesday #164