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newdeal2

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11. Yes we can and should do both

Thu Aug 28, 2025, 11:48 PM

Aug 28

As for your other point, I go back to two things:

1) Death of the WW2 generation. Newer generations take democracy for granted and don't know the dangers of other systems and don't know history all that well in general.
2) Covid and lockdowns really accelerated conspiracy theories and general selfishness.

Both of those factors make our systems very vulnerable. People don't seem to care that our institutions are being destroyed; they just want "change" and they want it now.

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This is one reason our party's approval is in the toilet [View all] EnergizedLib Aug 28 OP

This is needed Pachamama Aug 28 #1

Some members of our party EnergizedLib Aug 28 #2

That isn't me Pachamama Aug 28 #6

Indeed, although I suspect we differ on WHO those Democrats are. W_HAMILTON Aug 29 #31

Huh? Pachamama Aug 29 #32

I think you need to pay more attention. GaYellowDawg Aug 29 #19

Thank you for this post. murielm99 Aug 29 #25

Very involved and long time DUer and met him Pachamama Aug 29 #33

I've been here since 2004, too. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #41

They were talking about Schumer, I suspect Orrex Aug 30 #42

Read more carefully. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #44

I read it fine, thanks. Orrex Aug 30 #45

That's interesting. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #46

Please read post 19, where "alternative facts" were also invoked. Orrex Aug 30 #47

You're flailing, Orrex. GaYellowDawg Aug 31 #48

Best wishes to you as you sort things out. Orrex Aug 31 #49

Yup yellow dahlia Aug 29 #39

Gov. Newsom has helped lead the charge... Dem4life1970 Aug 28 #3

We have two examples so far newdeal2 Aug 28 #4

How can we prosper as a country EnergizedLib Aug 28 #5

We can still move forward and make progress. Voters are motivated by their own self-interests newdeal2 Aug 28 #8

We can give them that, too EnergizedLib Aug 28 #10

Yes we can and should do both newdeal2 Aug 28 #11

Then they'd want change from this, too, right? EnergizedLib Aug 28 #12

Lol. Too many if not most voters don't even know what their own KPN Aug 29 #27

"First they came for the people in LA, and I did not speak out..." Lancero Aug 29 #34

I have some ideas but many here would jump Tree Lady Aug 28 #7

I mean, trans people have the right to exist EnergizedLib Aug 28 #9

But we don't get to decide which issues are put before us Oeditpus Rex Aug 29 #13

Then we need to hammer those real issues up front EnergizedLib Aug 29 #17

We didn't make it the center of our platform. Republicans did. GoodRaisin Aug 29 #16

Then it's time to push back on it EnergizedLib Aug 29 #18

No disagreement there. Fox News is still pushing that lie. GoodRaisin Aug 29 #21

It's time to get the word out about Fox EnergizedLib Aug 29 #22

Yep. We'll see it again in the next election if we don't. Right now it has been very GoodRaisin Aug 29 #23

Not so much "we brought up other wedge issues" KPN Aug 29 #29

I'm sure many agree with you on some of this RoseTrellis Aug 29 #30

Absolutely. Stop playing the culture war BS writerJT Aug 30 #43

"Democratic politicians are responding the only way they know how: by heeding the advice of the wonks who... LudwigPastorius Aug 29 #14

I believe that dogshit's approval among young people who know nothing, is that he was fighting. usonian Aug 29 #15

It's messaging MorbidButterflyTat Aug 29 #20

Showing one's duplicity is a time tested effective strategy in politics. SouthBayDem Aug 29 #24

Stand UP! SPEAK OUT James48 Aug 29 #26

How much did Blue Rose charge for this? fujiyamasan Aug 29 #28

''The other component of Shakir's pitch involves a subject with which he is deeply familiar: media'' Donkees Aug 29 #35

Establishment wonk memo: Dem messaging against Trump authoritarianism bad, Repub authentic Trump crime fighter hero betsuni Aug 29 #36

He ain't no stinking crime fighter EnergizedLib Aug 29 #37

Oh, dear! You suggested the Democratic response to our country being taken over by fascism should be stronger! Scrivener7 Aug 29 #38

Fire the strategists! yellow dahlia Aug 29 #40