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EnergizedLib

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Thu Aug 28, 2025, 10:45 PM Aug 28

This is one reason our party's approval is in the toilet [View all]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I need to do some venting:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dem-strategists-urged-party-trump-military-takeover-1235415635/

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National Guard outside of Union Station on Aug. 20 in Washington, D.C.
Astrid Riecken/The Washington Post/Getty Images
Donald Trump is waging a fascist takeover of the United States, siccing the Justice Department on his political enemies while deploying federal troops to “liberate” Washington, D.C., where crime has been steadily declining. Democratic politicians are responding the only way they know how: by heeding the advice of the wonks who helped get them into this situation in the first place — and whose advice is to avoid discussing what Trump is doing.

Blue Rose Research, the firm led by Democratic establishment darling David Shor, produced a memo earlier this month digging into the effectiveness of various messages related to Trump’s takeover of Washington, D.C. The firm advised that messaging around Trump’s “rising authoritarianism” was “highly unconvincing,” while messages that say Trump wants to “distract” from his damaging tariffs or horrifying Medicaid cuts were more effective. Meanwhile, Republican messaging about how Trump is clamping down on gang violence tested through the roof.

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Of course, kitchen table issues matter. Of course, healthcare matters. Both should be a focus, but you know what else should be a focus? Actually pushing back and fighting against trump's authoritarian tactics.

Look at the polls. The Big Beautiful Bill isn't popular. Even right-leaning polls don't have trump's approval numbers through the roof. He isn't doing JFK numbers, he isn't doing Bush Sr. numbers after Desert Storm, he isn't doing Dubya numbers after 9/11. Some people are far gone to the point of hopelessness, but there's a sense of hopelessness among us because we're frustrated our leadership isn't doing enough to call out and push back against what has by far been the closest America has come to a dictatorship in my lifetime.

This makes 2017-2021 look like a picnic, and that was abysmal with those four years that felt like an eternity.

No, we need to be a united party, and we need to unite our party against this bully, this tyrant - not backing down, not giving him our lunch money. It's why Gavin's numbers have increased in early 2028 polling because he's tried to give dear leader a taste of his medicine, it's why some people split ticketed trump and AOC of all things because some perceived both of them to be authentic.

I've voted straight blue for years. That will not change in 2026, but we're getting to a point where a shredded book has more of a spine than some members of our party do. Some of the leaders in our party seem to have less courage than the Cowardly Lion does.

If it were up to me, we'd hold the House, 435-0, we'd hold the Senate, 100-0, every presidential election would be 538-0 for us and our Supreme Court would be to the left of the Warren Court.

I'm inspired, I'm motivated. Not everybody is. More of our party needs to take the fight to authoritarianism. We're not going to agree with every Democrat on every issue, but we need to agree even the worst Democrat is better than the best MAGAt and we need urge these Democrats to focus not just on kitchen table issues, not just on healthcare, but also fighting tyranny.

If we fought harder against these maniacs, our approval might go up just a smidge.

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This is needed Pachamama Aug 28 #1
Some members of our party EnergizedLib Aug 28 #2
That isn't me Pachamama Aug 28 #6
Indeed, although I suspect we differ on WHO those Democrats are. W_HAMILTON Aug 29 #31
Huh? Pachamama Aug 29 #32
I think you need to pay more attention. GaYellowDawg Aug 29 #19
Thank you for this post. murielm99 Aug 29 #25
Very involved and long time DUer and met him Pachamama Aug 29 #33
I've been here since 2004, too. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #41
They were talking about Schumer, I suspect Orrex Aug 30 #42
Read more carefully. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #44
I read it fine, thanks. Orrex Aug 30 #45
That's interesting. GaYellowDawg Aug 30 #46
Please read post 19, where "alternative facts" were also invoked. Orrex Aug 30 #47
You're flailing, Orrex. GaYellowDawg Aug 31 #48
Best wishes to you as you sort things out. Orrex Aug 31 #49
Yup yellow dahlia Aug 29 #39
Gov. Newsom has helped lead the charge... Dem4life1970 Aug 28 #3
We have two examples so far newdeal2 Aug 28 #4
How can we prosper as a country EnergizedLib Aug 28 #5
We can still move forward and make progress. Voters are motivated by their own self-interests newdeal2 Aug 28 #8
We can give them that, too EnergizedLib Aug 28 #10
Yes we can and should do both newdeal2 Aug 28 #11
Then they'd want change from this, too, right? EnergizedLib Aug 28 #12
Lol. Too many if not most voters don't even know what their own KPN Aug 29 #27
"First they came for the people in LA, and I did not speak out..." Lancero Aug 29 #34
I have some ideas but many here would jump Tree Lady Aug 28 #7
I mean, trans people have the right to exist EnergizedLib Aug 28 #9
But we don't get to decide which issues are put before us Oeditpus Rex Aug 29 #13
Then we need to hammer those real issues up front EnergizedLib Aug 29 #17
We didn't make it the center of our platform. Republicans did. GoodRaisin Aug 29 #16
Then it's time to push back on it EnergizedLib Aug 29 #18
No disagreement there. Fox News is still pushing that lie. GoodRaisin Aug 29 #21
It's time to get the word out about Fox EnergizedLib Aug 29 #22
Yep. We'll see it again in the next election if we don't. Right now it has been very GoodRaisin Aug 29 #23
Not so much "we brought up other wedge issues" KPN Aug 29 #29
I'm sure many agree with you on some of this RoseTrellis Aug 29 #30
Absolutely. Stop playing the culture war BS writerJT Aug 30 #43
"Democratic politicians are responding the only way they know how: by heeding the advice of the wonks who... LudwigPastorius Aug 29 #14
I believe that dogshit's approval among young people who know nothing, is that he was fighting. usonian Aug 29 #15
It's messaging MorbidButterflyTat Aug 29 #20
Showing one's duplicity is a time tested effective strategy in politics. SouthBayDem Aug 29 #24
Stand UP! SPEAK OUT James48 Aug 29 #26
How much did Blue Rose charge for this? fujiyamasan Aug 29 #28
''The other component of Shakir's pitch involves a subject with which he is deeply familiar: media'' Donkees Aug 29 #35
Establishment wonk memo: Dem messaging against Trump authoritarianism bad, Repub authentic Trump crime fighter hero betsuni Aug 29 #36
He ain't no stinking crime fighter EnergizedLib Aug 29 #37
Oh, dear! You suggested the Democratic response to our country being taken over by fascism should be stronger! Scrivener7 Aug 29 #38
Fire the strategists! yellow dahlia Aug 29 #40
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