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MichMan

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16. It is more complex than the OP. That was my point.

Reply to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 28, 2025, 03:59 PM

Jul 28

The OP would ignore completely the role of Congress in spending.

The House was in Republican control in Clinton's and Obama's second terms. It was in Democratic control for the end of Bush II and the last half of Trump's first term. Hell, Reagan even had a Democratic House his entire presidency. None of them could spend anything or sign anything into law without Congress passing it first.

I don't believe that Madame Speaker Pelosi, who famously tore up Trump's State of the Union speech, passed Trump's budgets the last two years of his first term because of the tremendous influence he had over her. Do you?

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Something you will never see on Fox [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 28 OP

Correct................ Lovie777 Jul 28 #1

Congress determines spending, not the president MichMan Jul 28 #2

So the fact that whathehell Jul 28 #4

"The buck stops here" niyad Jul 28 #6

More complex than that. Pacifist Patriot Jul 28 #7

It is more complex than the OP. That was my point. MichMan Jul 28 #16

always the whitewash Skittles Jul 28 #19

Hehe AKwannabe Jul 29 #27

Everyone should always remember this! ReRe Jul 28 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author charliea Jul 29 #29

Up until recently... charliea Jul 29 #30

I thought TSF was up to 5 Trillion? flying_wahini Jul 28 #3

Just getting started -- that was probably from the 1st term. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 28 #24

Great concept, visualization. Kid Berwyn Jul 28 #5

The Deficit is the annual shortfall IbogaProject Jul 28 #10

Yep and MAGA did it mostly via tax cuts for the rich uponit7771 Jul 28 #8

Rs spend like drunken billionaires. Ds clean up the Rs party mess. Clouds Passing Jul 28 #9

Drunken billionaires don't spend their own money -- certainly not when they're part of the Administration. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 28 #25

Oops, that's right they steal our money to use Clouds Passing Jul 30 #31

GW with all his daddy issues, PatSeg Jul 28 #11

Didn't Bush Jr. work the levers somehow yonder Jul 28 #21

Oh, I don't know PatSeg Jul 29 #28

correct. does compte . this needs to be either a tv ad or bill board . AllaN01Bear Jul 28 #12

With simplified text... RockCreek Jul 28 #22

Look at em again LilElf70 Jul 28 #13

yet the G.O.P. lies about this all the time BoRaGard Jul 28 #14

Unless the context is provided... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 28 #15

I believe Biden reduced the deficit compared to the prior year after all the Covid spending ended MichMan Jul 28 #17

Anyone familiar with the U.S. debt would know how to interpret it. W_HAMILTON Jul 28 #18

Looking at only the deficit... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 28 #20

the rs do that deliberatly so that the rs can have some one to blame during the election. AllaN01Bear Jul 28 #23