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pinkstarburst

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45. There is absolutely zero chance

Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:05 PM

Jul 25

that some damning smoking gun is going to be released that incriminates Trump.

None.

He will do whatever it takes to make sure that doesn't happen.

So whatever "Epstein Files" are released will either all be a fake, or they will have 45's involvement scrubbed from them, or they will be doctored to instead include fake stuff on democrats.

This could also include Maxwell testifying against prominent Democrats being involved in Epstein's creepy circle in exchange for a pardon. She has nothing to lose at this point.

There is nothing good that comes from the files being released, IMHO. He is never going to allow something that incriminates him to be released because that would potentially sink him. I am not sure why everyone is pushing for this.

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I fear a Maxwell pardon will cost us midterms [View all] EnergizedLib Jul 25 OP

I think the exact opposite. Ocelot II Jul 25 #1

I also expect that a pardon would hurt the GOP in the mid terms LetMyPeopleVote Jul 25 #47

Yeah, I don't think there will be a pardon. LudwigPastorius Jul 25 #68

The pardon will occur after the 2028 election thought crime Jul 26 #77

so do I/nt Brainstormy Jul 25 #51

Quite the opposite! Trump Pardoning her- for favorable testimony Ars Longa Jul 25 #57

A pardon would be political suicide. gab13by13 Jul 25 #2

Don't give him any ideas. Fuck Sandusky! madinmaryland Jul 25 #30

State conviction. Not federal PCIntern Jul 25 #37

It might cost the GOP the midterms. Irish_Dem Jul 25 #3

Pedo in chief DoBW Jul 25 #23

He is so guilty if he pardons her! OrlandoDem2 Jul 25 #4

Not. H2O Man Jul 25 #5

Agreed Hekate Jul 25 #19

Really??? D_Master81 Jul 25 #6

Never underestimate how duped MAGAts can be EnergizedLib Jul 25 #8

What does that have to do with winning the mid-terms? Phoenix61 Jul 25 #49

And MAGAts wouldn't be motivated in this hypothetical scenario? EnergizedLib Jul 25 #52

They are 30% of the electorate at best. That leaves 70% for us. Phoenix61 Jul 25 #59

Which sounds terrific on paper EnergizedLib Jul 25 #63

Epstein is the icing on the cake. Everything you mentioned is the cake. Phoenix61 Jul 25 #64

I hate that I agree with you. Scrivener7 Jul 26 #82

The Ds should include in their discussions that f45's agreement with Epstein was business and ask in2herbs Jul 25 #7

His hand-picked cronies run the IRS now Diraven Jul 25 #38

Can't predict (for now) how it'd all play out, BUT B.See Jul 25 #9

What kind of weed is that? BootinUp Jul 25 #10

I would consider a pardon... Mike Nelson Jul 25 #11

I don't see the anger over a Trump pardon being blamed on the Democrats. Gore1FL Jul 25 #12

If Maxwell were pardoned EnergizedLib Jul 25 #14

I share your bad feeling Dave says Jul 25 #36

Except Diraven Jul 25 #40

very, VERY unlikely - - the only ones likely to put any creedence stopdiggin Jul 25 #13

"there is a fairly decent investigative record already compiled on the Epstein/Maxwell crimes" PSPS Jul 25 #28

'at's the spirit! stopdiggin Jul 25 #53

I'm betting she names a bunch of dems and no republicans mucifer Jul 25 #15

I, for one, agree Diraven Jul 25 #16

If anything a pardon would increase the size of the blue wave. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 25 #17

If something like the Epstein/Maxwell issue has that much effect.... WarGamer Jul 25 #18

I'm so glad you are calling it now....no need to watch the results Tribetime Jul 25 #20

You have no idea how much I hope I'm wrong EnergizedLib Jul 25 #22

Cheer up this can only hurt maga Tribetime Jul 25 #25

Definitely plausible but I think the rest of Traitor's bullshit will be a huge drag Arazi Jul 25 #21

If he pardons her, people will see it's all a cover-up Emile Jul 25 #24

We see through the BS EnergizedLib Jul 25 #26

If he pardons her, there will be more pressure to release the Epstein files bucolic_frolic Jul 25 #27

So politics before justice for victims 🙄 Raine Jul 25 #29

I agree all should be punished EnergizedLib Jul 25 #31

What if they're "exposed" by a convicted perjurer with the assistance of known liars? 0rganism Jul 25 #60

No chance of that happening at all. Wiz Imp Jul 25 #32

Do you trust her to tell the truth? I don't. EnergizedLib Jul 25 #33

Should we give up? Kingofalldems Jul 25 #34

Of course not EnergizedLib Jul 25 #35

You apparently didn't read what I wrote. Wiz Imp Jul 25 #42

What if she truthfully incriminates Dems but lies about trump? EnergizedLib Jul 25 #43

Doubtful but I guess possible (super highly unlikely though) Wiz Imp Jul 25 #44

lol, you forget a substantial majority believe Hillary is the ringleadwr Arazi Jul 25 #50

"a substantial majority .. " of the fruitcake society? stopdiggin Jul 25 #54

Substantial majority? There was never even a substantial minority who believed in that Wiz Imp Jul 25 #56

How well did pardoning Nixon work out for Gerald Ford? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 25 #39

American voters had morals, had standards, back in the '70s? EnergizedLib Jul 25 #41

There is absolutely zero chance pinkstarburst Jul 25 #45

Why would republicans go through all the coverup if that's the expected outcome? Renew Deal Jul 25 #46

It's the economy Strelnikov_ Jul 25 #48

meh. marble falls Jul 25 #55

Agree! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 25 #67

Well, that really doesn't make much sense to me. NoRethugFriends Jul 25 #58

You're calling it now? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 25 #61

Yes EnergizedLib Jul 25 #62

I don't ForgedCrank Jul 25 #65

This. Issues matter EnergizedLib Jul 25 #66

What happened? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 25 #70

I want to be EnergizedLib Jul 26 #71

Most people don't even know who Maxwell is, and "most" voters are sick of Trump already. Jack Valentino Jul 25 #69

Can you point to a historical precedent for this? EdmondDantes_ Jul 26 #72

What historical precedent is there for any of this? EnergizedLib Jul 26 #73

So that's a no then. EdmondDantes_ Jul 26 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 26 #74

I believe that trump will pardon maxwell LetMyPeopleVote Jul 26 #75

So much concern, so little time. TBF Jul 26 #76

Giving her a pardon won't get him out of this if it's the files they want. GoodRaisin Jul 26 #80

I'm not concerned about his base - TBF Jul 27 #84

If she gives testimony favorable to Trump now, she'll get a pardon on Trump's way out. thought crime Jul 26 #78

NOT if we post more items like this everywhere: Lets Go Jul 26 #81

Trump woke up to horse's head at his feet, and it's dragging him down. Fast and hard Torchlight Jul 26 #83