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gab13by13

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28. Good to know that Putin didn't cause this,

Tue Jul 22, 2025, 03:30 PM

Jul 22

I believe that Putin used Musk to light the Epstein fire.

Musk made some very incriminating claims about Krasnov being on the Lolita Express, being in the little black book.

It absolutely was Musk who reignited Epstein Gate.

Krasnov was bad mouthing Putin about Ukraine. Krasnov was talking about sending weapons to Ukraine again. Krasnov was talking about the EU deal for weapons for Ukraine. Krasnov was talking about sanctioning countries that do business with Russia.

WTF changed Krasnov's mind?

Krasnov will not be bad mouthing Putin - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not be sending weapons to Ukraine - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not make a deal with the EU to buy our weapons and ship them to Ukraine - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not be imposing sanctions on countries that do business with Russia - let me know if he does.

Krasnov got the message loud and clear so Putin will allow an escape hatch from Epstein Gate.

Epstein Gate will fizzle out as long as Krasnov backs off Ukraine and sanctions.

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I Told You Putin Was Behind Epstein Gate [View all] gab13by13 Jul 22 OP

I think Putin has a Trump/Katie Johnson tape Chasstev365 Jul 22 #1

i hope someone has a putin tape AllaN01Bear Jul 22 #9

Probably not - having been in intelligence womanofthehills Jul 22 #43

He's had the pee tapes for years...been savng them just in case... brush Jul 22 #57

This is possible. yardwork Jul 22 #2

If the WSJ story was a one off, we will know johnnyfins Jul 22 #3

what is PTB? Amaryllis Jul 22 #10

(T) P T B Botany Jul 22 #12

Thanks, that acronym was a bit of a stretch PatSeg Jul 22 #23

It's all over the internet and that smells like Putin and Musk to me. yardwork Jul 22 #18

We have heard hints and rumors that Epstein was in cahoots with a Russian oligarch of some type FakeNoose Jul 22 #4

Darrel Cooper said Epstein was freelance womanofthehills Jul 22 #16

Maybe Putin has a spare in J.D. Vance PatSeg Jul 22 #24

While Putin may be pleased, he didn't cause this Fiendish Thingy Jul 22 #5

I hope you're right about this, because I want to believe in the integrity of those FBI investigators FakeNoose Jul 22 #7

Good to know that Putin didn't cause this, gab13by13 Jul 22 #28

Regarding Trump's reversal on Ukraine, the TACO theory applies Fiendish Thingy Jul 22 #29

Here is letting you know, as you asked Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #49

Glad to see all the recs your post is getting, FT TheProle Jul 22 #40

Some nicknames are cute and clever Fiendish Thingy Jul 22 #41

I believe the weapons deal was made when Biden was President? kentuck Jul 22 #6

T agreed to the weapons sales using EU money IbogaProject Jul 22 #15

July 14, see my post # 49 Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #51

Epstein made his money at Bear Stearns laundering Russian money pecosbob Jul 22 #8

There was an interesting profile from 2003 in Vanity Fair, entitled "The Talented Mr. Epstein" FakeNoose Jul 22 #19

Darryl Cooper speaks about Vicky Ward's article womanofthehills Jul 22 #44

Yes, there are all kinds of rumors .... and sooner or later we'll know the whole story FakeNoose Jul 22 #46

Epstein was technically a "money manager"... AntiFascist Jul 22 #27

You present no evidence. Correlation is not causation. You told us speculation, not fact. Putin is the easy go to. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #11

I have seen no reports about your assertions re weapons deals and sanctions Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #13

This is all speculation, of course. yardwork Jul 22 #20

Indeed. But report on DU says the bots are confused because maga is confused. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #21

As long as people are talking about it, though... yardwork Jul 22 #26

Darryl Cooper said that after Epstein met Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad womanofthehills Jul 22 #45

Even a Bing search will get one to this gab13by13 Jul 22 #30

That's from 8th July, and is about Hegseth, not Trump muriel_volestrangler Jul 22 #39

You are way behind on your news; much has happened in the over a week since your link was published Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Jul 22 #50

Sure looks that way, doesn't it? ananda Jul 22 #14

This sounds more than plausible flamingdem Jul 22 #17

Can anyone, not just the thread starter, explain "Krasnov is backing away from sending more weapons to Ukraine"? muriel_volestrangler Jul 22 #22

Product of OP's imagination. tritsofme Jul 22 #34

I doubt it. Emrys Jul 22 #38

Apparently the european press is speculating that applegrove Jul 22 #25

Puzzle pieces all falling into place. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #31

The Europeans are more suspicious of Putin because applegrove Jul 22 #32

Yes, not as brainwashed as Americans. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #33

I don't know if it is true that Putin leveraged Epstein over Trump. applegrove Jul 22 #35

There is a known Russian money link to Epstein. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #36

To me they are still dots. applegrove Jul 22 #37

Would you believe wire transfers from Epstein to Russian banks and vice versa? FakeNoose Jul 22 #52

I vaguely heard about that. Don't know the details yet. applegrove Jul 22 #54

Sorry to belabor this point ... but this was posted yesterday on DU by Usonian FakeNoose Jul 22 #58

think about it Skittles Jul 22 #53

Something is there. applegrove Jul 22 #55

Putin probably has videos Mz Pip Jul 22 #42

The UK Times reported that a Florida deputy sheriff who fled to Russia... AntiFascist Jul 22 #48

As Hillary Said MrWowWow Jul 22 #56