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Ms. Toad

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70. You said it was always a slap to artists.

Fri May 30, 2025, 08:56 PM

May 30

I have given you two examples (of many) artists to whom it is not a slap.

I never said anything about curing all of the ethical issues surrounding the use of AI. Nor did I focus on whether they find AI profitable.

What I said was some artists do not perceive AI art as a slap, including some who have gained enough recognition and respect in the world of art to have their works on display in some of the more prestigious art museums in this country (and possibly the world). You have no right to diminish their artistic credentials - which I suspect are far superior to your own - simply because YOU perceive AI art to be insulting.

When you proclaim an absolute, as you did (always), a single example disproves it. I have given you two.

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Does it occur to any of you who are posting AI slop - AI art - that it's always a slap at the artists and photographers [View all] highplainsdem May 29 OP

I so agree. WhiteTara May 29 #1

Thanks! highplainsdem May 29 #4

I think that your logic is the same that has always been used to oppose progress. totodeinhere May 29 #2

You're wrong. And generative AI is anything but progress. highplainsdem May 29 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author George McGovern May 29 #10

faulty comparison SouthBayDem May 29 #31

I can speak to this EarlG May 29 #5

Thank you. Although it's heartbreaking to read about you or any other creative feeling "What's the point?" of highplainsdem May 29 #8

I miss SwampRat's pictures. yardwork May 29 #11

I miss pic of the moment but I totally understand your point. CrispyQ May 29 #32

Don't use AI. Use A1. progressoid May 29 #44

Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover May 29 #6

Thanks! highplainsdem May 29 #34

what do you mean by "stealing"? k_buddy762 May 29 #7

See this article: highplainsdem May 29 #12

Most of it wasn't trained on open source or public domain stuff. Ms. Toad May 29 #16

All AI has been trained on stolen material pinkstarburst May 30 #49

Think of the money that would have been saved Progressive dog May 29 #9

Think of the money that would have been saved if tech companies and venture capitalists hadn't highplainsdem May 29 #13

It is- that's capitalism... JCMach1 May 29 #22

A comedian (I forget who) was talking about the Sistine Chapel after niyad May 30 #58

The young do not buy art anymore womanofthehills May 29 #14

We always have a choice not to go with the flow. And everything Grok, Musk's AI, churns out is an highplainsdem May 29 #15

it doesnt matter,its coming moonshinegnomie May 29 #18

It can be rejected as unethical, flawed, harmful technology. And it should be. Especially by highplainsdem May 29 #23

It does matter. Scrivener7 May 29 #29

Problem is - the market has shrunk - people rarely buy wall art now womanofthehills May 30 #63

I've seen beautiful collages done with art that's in the public domain. Or you might try to highplainsdem May 30 #64

If I may, Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 29 #17

Thanks for the kind words! And I really hope people won't use AI for posts here. It would highplainsdem May 29 #35

Thank you Highplainsdem, JMCKUSICK May 29 #37

I've seen so many teachers bring this up, when talking about AI, that I felt I had to mention it. highplainsdem May 29 #40

I'm guessing no. Like it doesn't occur to Airbnb users LisaM May 29 #19

True all too frequently. Often they tell themselves everyone else is doing it, it's inevitable, etc. highplainsdem May 29 #38

People do not understand or respect intellectual property. LisaM May 29 #41

Semi-related ... krkaufman May 29 #20

That's both funny and sad. And I'd always advise against people trusting AI overviews/summaries highplainsdem May 29 #39

I have two artist daughters. Americanme May 29 #21

Kudos to your daughters for being so talented and so ethical. (And to you for doing such a great highplainsdem May 29 #43

That's a good one. usonian May 29 #24

You should always reject it because it's unethical and harmful. Please don't use ANY AI-generated slop, highplainsdem May 29 #25

You're fighting the good fight here. WhiskeyGrinder May 29 #26

Thanks. I'm trying. highplainsdem May 29 #36

I have seen only one good use for AI art so far The Madcap May 29 #27

Not a good use. They're musicians betraying visual artists. One of my favorite rock singers highplainsdem May 29 #33

I happen to like the deforming images, The Madcap May 29 #46

The music is fine. Using AI for the video is completely unethical AND really clueless for a musician, because highplainsdem May 30 #47

I agree pinkstarburst May 30 #51

Whether the image is appealing or not, it's still stolen pinkstarburst May 30 #50

AI is the equivalent of an invasive species and it will take over if not eliminated. nt ImNotGod May 29 #28

Haven't seen that comparison before, but it's a good one. highplainsdem May 30 #48

AI is the devil. Scrivener7 May 29 #30

It's certainly functioning as a devil. Did you see the video posted at highplainsdem May 30 #53

We have no idea where this is going. The people behind it are all the Elons of the world, and it's about Scrivener7 May 30 #55

100% agree obamanut2012 May 29 #42

Thanks! highplainsdem May 30 #54

I stopped watching a lot of the videos here. progressoid May 29 #45

I know. And some of the AI users creating those videos are cynical exploiters who were making AI highplainsdem May 30 #56

AI in the arts is trained off of stolen work pinkstarburst May 30 #52

Not all artists agree with you. Ms. Toad May 30 #57

Yes, genAI is always a slap at artists and photographers. Some artists and photographers just refuse highplainsdem May 30 #61

So who appointed you God of what artists should feel, Ms. Toad May 30 #65

Tell me how a few artists finding it profitable to work with AI can cancel out the incalculably vast theft highplainsdem May 30 #66

You said it was always a slap to artists. Ms. Toad May 30 #70

I said it was a slap AT artists, not TO them. Look at my OP. highplainsdem May 30 #71

To/at - not a substantial difference. What I said is that not all artists agree. Ms. Toad May 30 #72

It's a complete difference. You're talking about a different subject - feelings about AI versus highplainsdem May 30 #73

Some people don't seem to care MorbidButterflyTat May 30 #59

Stunning, and painful to watch. highplainsdem May 30 #67

I have so much to say about hating AI and posting clickbait memes but I won't. blogslug May 30 #60

I can understand people wanting to do that. highplainsdem May 30 #68

Thank you. mucholderthandirt May 30 #62

You're welcome, and I'm so sorry your work was stolen for training AI. highplainsdem May 30 #69