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WarGamer

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36. I'm quite the cynic...

Tue May 27, 2025, 03:30 PM

May 2025

IMHO... the US didn't stage D-Day to defeat the Nazis.

By June of 1944, The German military had been decimated on the Eastern front.

The Battle of Moscow, the Winter offensive... Kharkov, Stalingrad, Kursk...

By D-Day the German Eastern front had collapsed.

Millions of fatalities.

They'd lost control over the air and seas...

The US didn't need to invade France to defeat Germany.

The Russians would have done it... later in 1945.

But FDR and Churchill agreed to D-Day for the SOLE PURPOSE of preventing the USSR from driving WEST after Berlin and raising the red flag over all of Europe.

So in reality... Grandpa JJ didn't die to stop the Nazis, he died to stop the Communists.

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This is probably my most "conservative" opinion [View all] senseandsensibility May 2025 OP

That is neither a 'conservative' nor a 'progressive' stance, it is simply a correct one. Nation states often have their Celerity May 2025 #1

I wholeheartedly agree with all you say. dchill May 2025 #2

Why Is That Conservative? ProfessorGAC May 2025 #3

No senseandsensibility May 2025 #4

Good Plan ProfessorGAC May 2025 #7

I cannot see how repukes in ANY way honor our troops Skittles May 2025 #32

The greatest sacrifice of all awaits our men and women in uniform. Frasier Balzov May 2025 #5

I grok. ananda May 2025 #6

Fly it! Ksout May 2025 #8

Welcome to DU senseandsensibility May 2025 #9

Thank you for this heartfelt post Grim Chieftain May 2025 #10

Welcome to DU senseandsensibility May 2025 #11

Thanks for the welcome! Grim Chieftain May 2025 #12

Well said ..those who died should be remembered JT45242 May 2025 #13

Thank you Ksout May 2025 #14

You should post more senseandsensibility May 2025 #28

My Grandfather served in WW1 IbogaProject May 2025 #15

I think having the experience of relatives who fought in WW1 or senseandsensibility May 2025 #17

I honor their military service and their personal sacrifice. sop May 2025 #16

American progressives and conservatives alike stand under the umbrella of Ol Janx Spirit May 2025 #18

Very eloquent senseandsensibility May 2025 #19

Google disagrees TnDem May 2025 #20

? senseandsensibility May 2025 #23

OK, and what would that be? TnDem May 2025 #24

That sentiment is not conservative, it is proof of your humanity and good heart. LoisB May 2025 #21

You're right senseandsensibility May 2025 #25

You are absolutely correct. I never understood how they got to define themselves as the LoisB May 2025 #26

Democrats do not tend to use soldiers as political props Skittles May 2025 #33

Thank you, you are not alone! ZDU May 2025 #22

I can understand that as the right has been trying to say they are the patriots for a long time. Eko May 2025 #27

Conservative? Cirsium May 2025 #29

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT Skittles May 2025 #34

The teDUMP brand of patriotism is nauseating. magicarpet May 2025 #30

Call it the cynic in me... WarGamer May 2025 #31

We honor those who sacrificed, even needlessly Martin Eden May 2025 #35

I'm quite the cynic... WarGamer May 2025 #36

From D-Day to VE day was 10+ months Martin Eden May 2025 #37