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Tommy Carcetti

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45. I recently watched former President Clinton give remarks at the 30th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.
Tue May 27, 2025, 03:16 PM
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When I watched his speech, I heard how he had his seemingly characteristic--almost trademarked--heavy rasp in his voice.

Having followed him heavily over the decades, including in recent years, I had grown very accustomed to that raspy voice.

During his speech, he referenced remarks he made back in 1995 right after the bombing took place.

Curious I pulled up that 1995 speech.

I was fully expecting to hear that thick rasp in his voice during that particular address.

Instead, what I heard was a much clearer, stronger voice with barely any evidence of any type of rasp. His usual southern accent was there, but the rasp was certainly not.

I confess it threw me for a loop how much his voice had changed over the years, not to mention how much older and seemingly frailer he looked now.

Noticeably, however, I actually found his 2025 remarks to be even deeper and more poignant than his 1995 remarks. So clearly, he had not missed a step mentally, even though his voice and appearance seemed to say otherwise.

I don't think there's any difference when it comes to President Biden, either.

When people get older, their voice and gait inevitably deteriorate.

That should never in and of itself be considered evidence of a cognitive decline, however.

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I recently watched former President Clinton give remarks at the 30th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. Tommy Carcetti Tuesday #45
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