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moniss

(8,603 posts)
42. Yes I saw the NYT article after my post and
Tue May 27, 2025, 12:28 PM
May 2025

I always felt that this was an effort to remove the UN in any form from anything to do with Gaza. Because of the US veto it doesn't matter about anything the UN wants because the US will nullify anything. So the powers behind this group are effectively wresting jurisdiction from the UN by usurping them. The right of return etc. will never be heeded by these powers and they will do anything and everything to "move on" from their broken promises just as they have always done. People need to remember that if Israel annexes Gaza, which is likely in the coming months, they also get the Gaza gas fields out in the sea. They can nullify any previous agreements for development of those fields.

That would leave the West Bank area and I believe Netanyahu will then turn and begin to claim things like "Jordan isn't doing enough", "arms are coming through Jordan", "Jordan isn't living up to it's peace agreement" etc. Then the IDF will push in and Netanyahu will claim they are having problems of security and use it as a push to take the East Bank as well which has always been a long time desire of the rabid right in Israel. As in Lebanon and in Syria.

The Western media, really even in the Middle Eastern media as well, doesn't speak about these long term stated desires when they report about Lebanon for example. It is astounding to watch the so called journalists and commentators go on day after day talking about the ceasefire in Lebanon which is a ceasefire on one side only while the other keeps attacking and not see the absurdity of using the word. The supposed UN force/committee is once again hamstrung with restraints and has recently complained of being fired upon by the IDF. The Lebanese military has also complained about taking fire. But all we see are brief reports in the media of the occurrence and then.........nothing. Just like we infrequently now ever see reporting about abuse in the prisons. Everybody knows nothing will come of it. In fact the ones like Smotrich and Ben-Givr will hail the abusers.

During the long nightmare of Vietnam it became so familiar to hear the media read the daily or weekly casualty figures that the words faded before the echo died. 200 on our side 2000 on theirs or was it 150 and 2500? The numbers blurred even as they were spoken. It just fell into a huge, dark, evil abyss of sameness for so many as they felt powerless to make it stop. We are there now again for Gaza and day after day the reports of 15, 30, 50 or this school or hospital or this journalist, relief official, medical personnel, babies, women, toddlers, old men etc. and it rolls on and then the gasp that the world had when the toll hit 25,000 is made once again when the number became 35,000 and now the number goes over 53,000 and the number gasping is less.

All while governments wag their finger and speak words that also fall into the huge, dark, evil, abyss of sameness.

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Also from that article. Eko May 2025 #1
Again, see threats and propaganda Mountainguy May 2025 #2
Death threats? Sounds serious. AloeVera May 2025 #3
How about the one I already posted? Mountainguy May 2025 #4
In other words, a new iteration of "IDF says..." AloeVera May 2025 #37
And yeah, death threats from bloodthirsty killers Mountainguy May 2025 #7
Links to death threats? Beastly Boy May 2025 #28
Just the latest way to defend hamas Mountainguy May 2025 #40
Aid organizations are extensions of Hamas? Eko May 2025 #5
You mean like the UNRWA? Mountainguy May 2025 #6
Ha Ha, Eko May 2025 #8
You want more? Mountainguy May 2025 #10
Jeeze, 1st one is from the IDF, second title says Israel says, Eko May 2025 #12
And the title of your last article Eko May 2025 #15
And the author of the second article said this. Eko May 2025 #9
The article is about a British document showing the connections Mountainguy May 2025 #11
Did you see the document? Eko May 2025 #13
Lets not forget that in the very first paragraph in the second article it states Eko May 2025 #14
How does a group work in Gaza Mountainguy May 2025 #17
Questions are not evidence. But here I will answer your questions. Eko May 2025 #19
Hiding? Mountainguy May 2025 #21
Did you see THIS?? AloeVera May 2025 #16
And yet Mountainguy May 2025 #18
Good for them. How much aid have they delivered? Eko May 2025 #20
Didn't want to use this picture? Mountainguy May 2025 #23
My apologies, I meant how much has been Eko May 2025 #25
No. WFP and others were doing it. AloeVera May 2025 #22
More about the aid process and organization running it Nanjeanne May 2025 #24
If Hamas were stealing aid, Israel would be providing video evidence. AloeVera May 2025 #26
That's a good one. Israel doesnt provide classified military surveillance footage on demand, ergo no stealing! Beastly Boy May 2025 #27
The levels people will go to Mountainguy May 2025 #31
According to Reuters Hamas itself moniss May 2025 #29
Hamas say Mountainguy May 2025 #30
And nothing in that article Mountainguy May 2025 #32
I tthink it's foolish for people to think that the only groups moniss May 2025 #33
It's much worse. AloeVera May 2025 #36
Yes I saw the NYT article after my post and moniss May 2025 #42
Desensitization to injustice and horrible deaths of innocents comes from a feeling of powerlessness. AloeVera May 2025 #45
I saw him doing an interview about moniss May 2025 #46
Desensitization to injustice and horrible deaths of innocents comes from organized indoctrination of children. Beastly Boy May 2025 #47
The Propaganda Times of Israel says what Sewa May 2025 #34
Wrong Mountainguy May 2025 #35
"Gaza Humanitarian Foundation" vanessa_ca May 2025 #38
You liked the system Mountainguy May 2025 #39
I despise war criminals masquerading as humanitarians vanessa_ca May 2025 #41
You mean this? malaise May 2025 #43
Only the pure can deliver aide? Mountainguy May 2025 #44
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