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70. I'm so tired of Democrats blaming voters for our electoral failures

Tue May 27, 2025, 12:07 PM

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Whenever you have some disaffected demographic, you need to offer some compelling narrative about what the problem is. Trump formed a narrative blaming immigrants and trade deficits. Democrats only counter-narrative seems to be "pull yourself up by your bootstraps., you bigots already have your male privilege".

I'm ready to see Democrats vilify the billionaire class the same way Republicans vilify trans people and immigrants, because they do cause most of the problems we have in society. It's an oversimplification but nuance has never translated well to political campaigning. And when someone accuses you of class warfare you just say "you're damn right, we're coming for you".

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Democrats spending millions to learn how to speak to 'American Men' and win back the working class [View all] TheProle Monday OP

lmaooooo what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Monday #1

How about, hildegaard28 Monday #2

+ 100!! CrispyQ Monday #5

The big brains hildegaard28 Monday #10

IMHO atreides1 Wednesday #103

Ill throw one out: legalize a distinction between wages and income, Volaris Tuesday #44

I don't think it's the economy. They have been trained to hate liberals and Democrats, travelingthrulife Tuesday #59

Exactly Rebl2 Wednesday #99

There's nothing wrong with Dems trying to plan a strategy senseandsensibility Monday #3

Ahhhhh--More "Bad Things About Democrats". Kingofalldems Monday #4

Oh those Democrats! Doing what people say they should, learn to speak to the working class. But ... but ... THE HOTEL. betsuni Monday #29

Bad? Sound like they're researching what went wrong. WarGamer Monday #36

Lost the WH, House, Senate, Judiciary GreatGazoo Tuesday #68

Why is that a bad thing? Mountainguy Monday #6

I am done with male victimhood Ritabert Monday #7

I think the male bashing when male concerns are considered Alpeduez21 Monday #21

I'm laughing....my wife said, "Why don't they just go to school walkingman Monday #8

Or they could take a page from republican men kacekwl Tuesday #54

it's my party........everybody sing along now. nt msongs Monday #9

... Celerity Monday #14

Judy;s gonna get what's coming to her.... nt msongs Monday #16

DNC giving me a good reason to ignore donation appeals. nt delisen Monday #11

I don't understand why people have a problem with this, republicans got in power because of stuff like this unblock Monday #12

I think a lack of authenticity might be the problem LearnedHand Monday #34

I think Democrats focus test too much AZProgressive Monday #38

cringe level 7 Celerity Monday #13

Not taking the bait on every single culture war issue the GOP conjures up costs nothing. BannonsLiver Monday #15

"donors and strategists holing up in luxury hotel rooms" Retrograde Monday #17

It's the "cost" that bothers me most. lees1975 Monday #18

The only issue I see here is the "luxury hotel room" thing jmowreader Monday #19

Why are you framing this so negatively? Prairie Gates Monday #20

I posted the title and 4 paragraphs verbatim TheProle Monday #24

How do you make a stupid idea look better? leftstreet Monday #28

According to YouGov it was 19 million womanofthehills Monday #32

Maybe what YouGov meant was that 19 million eligible voters didn't turn out? CrispyQ Tuesday #58

believe me, repuke elites have these same sorts of events cadoman Monday #26

Young men feel like they have lost their power Tree Lady Monday #22

That's a lot of kids right now womanofthehills Monday #33

I think part of it is giving too much to the kids Tree Lady Monday #37

I don't know how young people afford to buy a house today, CrispyQ Tuesday #63

My daughter 46 making over 200k Tree Lady Tuesday #74

Social media has convinced too many that they can make tons of money online or in some get rich scheme tulipsandroses Tuesday #78

Exactly this is the issue with my grandson Tree Lady Tuesday #84

all they need to do is use simpler language, more baby talk, a lot of googoo, gaagaa and maybe they can get through to ImNotGod Monday #23

Unfortunately, what it takes to "please" the portion of men Bettie Monday #25

Let me guess - they are using the very same strategists who put the party in this position to try to get us out of it. Midwestern Democrat Monday #27

Bingo n/t Sympthsical Monday #40

Kind of like "our big brain is gonna get us out of this mess that our big brain got us in." CrispyQ Tuesday #65

Does that mean I have to grunt and scratch my crotch? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #30

Well, one just needs read most of the responses in this thread and it is understood that men are not welcome here Alpeduez21 Monday #31

What would you, personally, like to hear from the party? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #55

Some of what I'd like to hear we cant discuss here. Callie1979 Wednesday #101

You are correct RJ-MacReady Tuesday #73

Many think the podcasts won the election. womanofthehills Monday #35

That makes sense to me, especially in light of the recent study that men, especially young men, don't read much anymore. CrispyQ Tuesday #66

What a waste of money JI7 Monday #39

Is this a job creation program? jalan48 Monday #41

So I guess this means that minorities will be thrown under the bus? DSandra Monday #42

Why does it have to be either or? RJ-MacReady Tuesday #76

Maybe instead of blowing millions of dollars MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #43

DU may ridicule, but I agree with the findings. Wanderlust988 Tuesday #45

I'm pretty sure few Democrats use those terms. Anybody know? I remember AOC defending "Latinx": betsuni Tuesday #46

Elizabeth Warren Shrek Tuesday #53

This doesn't help RJ-MacReady Wednesday #100

According to Pew pattyloutwo Tuesday #57

The biggest mistake Democrats have made is failing to tell people when they've done something good. Vinca Tuesday #47

That says more about young people that it does the party. walkingman Tuesday #51

I suspect that SS and Medicare rank really low on the list of what your average 25 yr old is concerned about MichMan Wednesday #105

I just gave that as an example because they're among the biggest and most successful programs. What would a 25 Vinca Wednesday #110

Why we'll keep right on losing. Passages Tuesday #48

In my view we need a strategy that will answer 2 questions. Prairie_Seagull Tuesday #49

Two parties and both have lost their way. nt Autumn Tuesday #50

I have a better idea gab13by13 Tuesday #52

Actually all they needed to do was undo Reagan's actions. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #56

Women make up nearly half of the working class. Quiet Em Tuesday #60

We need new leaders that don't come across as wimps. It doesn't matter how stupid you doc03 Tuesday #61

Obama was pretty good at reaching young men: a dynamic messenger promoting "hope and change" andym Tuesday #62

Bernie just showed how to do it. Save your millions. thought crime Tuesday #64

We're losing the culture war Sympthsical Tuesday #67

Interesting EarlG Tuesday #71

I feared this would be more or less the shape of the response Sympthsical Tuesday #72

No need for a straw man EarlG Tuesday #75

Keeping it very simple - a question Sympthsical Tuesday #79

So much crap you've said... Brenda Tuesday #87

Have you seen some of our national rhetoric towards Latinos? Sympthsical Tuesday #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Tuesday #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Tuesday #89

You asked me a direct question EarlG Tuesday #93

I actually agree with much you say here Sympthsical Wednesday #102

Hostility towards males here? Brenda Wednesday #108

No, I got it Sympthsical Wednesday #109

Sorry for the late reply EarlG Friday #112

I completely agree with this and your later post as well. Abolishinist Tuesday #77

This is the part i ageee with: "ever-changing list of cultural offenses people must be persecuted for committing" LearnedHand Tuesday #81

Well said. Littlered Tuesday #82

The odd thing is, I don't think this moralizing tone fujiyamasan Tuesday #86

Thanks for these posts. BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #95

Agreed. I came of age politically in the 1980s and being a liberal minded young man inclined towards intellectualism Midwestern Democrat Wednesday #97

NAFTA was, in my opinion, a HUGE political blunder. BluesRunTheGame Wednesday #98

It made me glad. LAS14 Tuesday #69

I'm so tired of Democrats blaming voters for our electoral failures biocube Tuesday #70

Hard to do when the infinite dark money ads define you. BlueTsunami2018 Tuesday #80

Are they taking Faux pas Tuesday #83

They Couldn't Have Rented... ProfessorGAC Tuesday #85

We need to reach young men too. Initech Tuesday #88

That's the biggest pile of horseshit I have seen in some time... kentuck Tuesday #92

Working class young men are pretty much like foreign people. kerry-is-my-prez Tuesday #94

Once again these "consultants" fujiyamasan Wednesday #96

The Dems must learn to jerk off a mic. Clouds Passing Wednesday #104

Here's the answer: lots of Democratic men are racist and sexist. That's why they Scrivener7 Wednesday #106

Save money, just listen to Trump's rally speeches Deminpenn Wednesday #107

The solution: "holing up in luxury hotel rooms" is the problem. usonian Wednesday #111