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Prairie Gates

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3. The "dirty" secret that Trump and his supporters fail to understand: the US is essentially a socialist economy
Tue May 27, 2025, 09:18 AM
May 27

So much of the US economy is simply held up by government spending. Without a trillion dollars pumped into red states in the form of defense spending, they would have economies like many third world nations. Without various federal programs, some of our states would look like failed states in Africa and elsewhere. All these "blue collar" residents of Hamilton, Montana think they are rugged Western individualists and vote GOP every time, but their lives and economy are completely supported by federal tax dollars, most often yanked from New York City and Los Angeles and Chicago and other places they proclaim to hate. They are not self-sustaining places. They collapse without massive infusion of federal and state funds. The secret is this: capitalism has never worked, any more than communism has. All modern economies that are not utterly failed are some version of a mixed (socialist) economy. There are differences in degree, and differences in how they represent themselves (ideology - the imagined understanding of one's real material conditions), but they are all socialist in character.

The US has been seduced by its ideological illusions. It will now have to learn the hard way.

Hey, Hamilton, Montana. Welcome to the Desert of the Real.

Ravalli County MT - 2024 General Election Results: Trump - 69% Harris 28% hatrack May 27 #1
Someone call the Whaaaammmulance - Lokee11 May 27 #8
Hopefully markodochartaigh May 27 #28
Yet another fafo story. mwmisses4289 May 27 #2
"Sympathy" is between. . . DinahMoeHum May 27 #4
"Republican" is between 'reptile' and "repulsive" in the dictionary. OMGWTF May 27 #17
The "dirty" secret that Trump and his supporters fail to understand: the US is essentially a socialist economy Prairie Gates May 27 #3
Our Constitution is a socialist document. Bluethroughu May 27 #20
How Are You RobinA May 27 #29
Socializing both risks and profit. haele May 27 #30
Tripped over their own bootstraps and they can't get up NBachers May 27 #5
Join the 61 % of america that can't afford the basic necessities. Autumn May 27 #6
"Ha ha. Montana suckers. Ha ha." - Krasnov (R-Felon/Rapist) BoRaGard May 27 #7
What they voted for. Old Crank May 27 #9
Awww That's a Shame! Chasstev365 May 27 #10
Leopards are hungry Clouds Passing May 27 #11
They are finding a lot of faces to eat though - Lokee11 May 27 #18
And unhealthier due to the large amount of toxins ingested Clouds Passing May 27 #22
Yeah but think of the sweet tax cuts IronLionZion May 27 #12
Full NPR article and Kaiser Health Network reporting erronis May 27 #13
It's an economic fact of life ... it's never just about firing federal employees FakeNoose May 27 #14
MAGAts are S...L...O...W......L...E...A...R...N...E...R...S. OMGWTF May 27 #19
This is an article from a Montana newspaper. patphil May 27 #15
key summary DBoon May 27 #27
DFSOB'S patphil May 27 #31
Awww! They can always self-deport and collect $1,000 Wonder Why May 27 #16
This is what happens when you elect an asshole Blue Owl May 27 #21
Pretty sure Montana's property tax rate laws were written to keep the state white wolfie001 May 27 #23
Perfect! peggysue2 May 27 #24
But at least the border is safe... ananda May 27 #25
"generates hundreds of millions of dollars for the local economy" Midnight Writer May 27 #26
Not to defend my foolish neighbors but: None of them knew how much DOGE and Congress would gut the economy before the Ford_Prefect May 27 #32
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