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In reply to the discussion: Given 2028 some thought [View all]

EarlG

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38. Um, the DNC's post-2016 rule reforms were made at the behest of Bernie Sanders
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:44 PM
May 25
In 2017, following a bitterly contentious Democratic National Convention and the defeat of nominee Hillary Clinton, representatives of the Sanders, Clinton, and Obama camps came together as a Unity Commission and negotiated reform of the party rules. The unity reforms are a credit to the work of Larry Cohen representing Sanders and then-chair Tom Perez, as well as Keith Ellison, the Sanders-backed candidate for party chair who Perez narrowly defeated for the job.

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The 2017 reforms were a testament to the influence of Sanders forces, who had enough delegates at the 2016 convention to get 25 percent representation on all committees and pushed relentlessly for a more open party.

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On July 30, the Democratic National Committee’s Rules Committee voted unanimously to keep the reform rules in place for 2024. Had this not been done, it would have been up to the new DNC to make the 2024 rules.

The Rules Committee acted partly thanks to a letter sent by 39 state party chairs, urging the committee to leave the reform rules in place. The letter was partly the work of Sanders people but also reflects the desire of most state party chairs to have a more open process with more participation.

https://prospect.org/politics/sanders-continuing-influence-party-rules-stay-reformed/

In 2020 and 2024, Democratic primary candidates were playing by rules which had been rewritten with the strong influence of Bernie Sanders. These were the rules that were in place when Sanders lost the primary to Biden in 2020.

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Given 2028 some thought [View all] angrychair May 24 OP
I agree, both are exceptional candidates. How would they do with Independent voters? surfered May 24 #1
This TnDem May 25 #11
that is why allowing the primary process to play out is so important cadoman May 25 #18
Agreed .... anciano May 24 #2
Love them both, however... Fiendish Thingy May 24 #3
Not in favor of either angrychair May 25 #5
Delaware is a pretty small state. BannonsLiver May 25 #24
Sen. Murphy is CT and Beshear is KY. yorkster May 25 #30
I'm aware of that. BannonsLiver May 25 #37
Aaahh. Sorry about that. Read the OP, but yorkster May 25 #39
I think if the DNC manipulates things pinkstarburst May 25 #6
You overestimate what the DNC can do SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #7
The DNC has huge influence over the primary process Fiendish Thingy May 25 #12
None of that is true SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #14
That is a quite naive and trusting opinion. Fiendish Thingy May 25 #15
No it's reality based SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #17
let me guess, you don't believe that the DNC assisted either Hillary or Biden? cadoman May 25 #19
Show me concrete evidence SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #26
Um, the DNC's post-2016 rule reforms were made at the behest of Bernie Sanders EarlG May 25 #38
Not going to do 40 years of research for you Fiendish Thingy May 25 #33
So you can't prove what you claim SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #36
We need to consider electability... Demsrule86 May 25 #22
In the primaries? Fiendish Thingy May 25 #34
The top of my wish list is someone who will win the Electoral College RandomNumbers May 25 #9
I see a lot of momentum for both of them on socials pinkstarburst May 24 #4
christofascists aren't going to vote for someone who just looks christofascist cadoman May 25 #20
I like Pete alot and I like AOC very much but I don't believe either of them can Demsrule86 May 25 #23
WE must win the electoral college...Walsh Beshear, Shapiro Pritzker etc. Demsrule86 May 25 #25
I won't waste my time SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #8
The US isn't a liberal country Mountainguy May 25 #10
Most voters don't *identify* as liberal Fiendish Thingy May 25 #13
Voters support the two Santas: liberal govt programs AND GOP tax cuts, there is less support for social issues andym May 25 #32
Reproductive rights and marriage equality are supported by a majority of voters, regardless of party affiliation. Fiendish Thingy May 25 #35
If the big beautiful bill passes Blue Full Moon May 25 #16
Can you post or link to these sections? TheProle May 25 #29
An excellent recipe for 4 years of Vance or Trump Jr. BannonsLiver May 25 #21
Josh Shapiro OLDMDDEM May 25 #27
I don't mind two young Millennials Polybius May 25 #28
Agree. Since what we are doing now not only isn't working, it's getting worse. lees1975 May 25 #31
Tim Walz Clouds Passing May 25 #40
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