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pinkstarburst

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6. I think if the DNC manipulates things

Sun May 25, 2025, 10:45 AM

May 25

and forces a straight white christian male down the throats of democratic voters when there is no enthusiasm for this choice, they will see a repeat of 2024: low turnout at the polls and another republican victory.

2024 saw lots of issues. Due to the timing of when Biden withdrew, there was no one but Harris who could have run. However, the result of this was that some voters may have felt they had no buy in, no ability to cast their votes and have their voices heard in a primary process. Voters do not react well when they feel like they have no choice in the matter. This is why we are losing young voters in the democratic party. They don't want to vote republican, but they don't feel like we represent them or stand for them or will fight for what they care about either. Forcing a straight white christian male down their throats will not get these voters to the polls in the numbers we need to win. We need to get over this idea that we must let the republicans pick both their candidates and ours. This is lunacy. We are not going to flip conservative right voters to our side by running a straight white christian male. Those voters are still voting republican. I don't get why we can't figure that out...

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Given 2028 some thought [View all] angrychair May 24 OP

I agree, both are exceptional candidates. How would they do with Independent voters? surfered May 24 #1

This TnDem May 25 #11

that is why allowing the primary process to play out is so important cadoman May 25 #18

Agreed .... anciano May 24 #2

Love them both, however... Fiendish Thingy May 24 #3

Not in favor of either angrychair May 25 #5

Delaware is a pretty small state. BannonsLiver May 25 #24

Sen. Murphy is CT and Beshear is KY. yorkster May 25 #30

I'm aware of that. BannonsLiver May 25 #37

Aaahh. Sorry about that. Read the OP, but yorkster May 25 #39

I think if the DNC manipulates things pinkstarburst May 25 #6

You overestimate what the DNC can do SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #7

The DNC has huge influence over the primary process Fiendish Thingy May 25 #12

None of that is true SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #14

That is a quite naive and trusting opinion. Fiendish Thingy May 25 #15

No it's reality based SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #17

let me guess, you don't believe that the DNC assisted either Hillary or Biden? cadoman May 25 #19

Show me concrete evidence SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #26

Um, the DNC's post-2016 rule reforms were made at the behest of Bernie Sanders EarlG May 25 #38

Not going to do 40 years of research for you Fiendish Thingy May 25 #33

So you can't prove what you claim SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #36

We need to consider electability... Demsrule86 May 25 #22

In the primaries? Fiendish Thingy May 25 #34

The top of my wish list is someone who will win the Electoral College RandomNumbers May 25 #9

I see a lot of momentum for both of them on socials pinkstarburst May 24 #4

christofascists aren't going to vote for someone who just looks christofascist cadoman May 25 #20

I like Pete alot and I like AOC very much but I don't believe either of them can Demsrule86 May 25 #23

WE must win the electoral college...Walsh Beshear, Shapiro Pritzker etc. Demsrule86 May 25 #25

I won't waste my time SocialDemocrat61 May 25 #8

The US isn't a liberal country Mountainguy May 25 #10

Most voters don't *identify* as liberal Fiendish Thingy May 25 #13

Voters support the two Santas: liberal govt programs AND GOP tax cuts, there is less support for social issues andym May 25 #32

Reproductive rights and marriage equality are supported by a majority of voters, regardless of party affiliation. Fiendish Thingy May 25 #35

If the big beautiful bill passes Blue Full Moon May 25 #16

Can you post or link to these sections? TheProle May 25 #29

An excellent recipe for 4 years of Vance or Trump Jr. BannonsLiver May 25 #21

Josh Shapiro OLDMDDEM May 25 #27

I don't mind two young Millennials Polybius May 25 #28

Agree. Since what we are doing now not only isn't working, it's getting worse. lees1975 May 25 #31

Tim Walz Clouds Passing May 25 #40