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elocs

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9. I wonder...at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire, were there those who grasped

Reply to RoeVWade (Original post)

Sun May 25, 2025, 08:57 AM

May 25

that it was ending? Are we so smug and arrogant to believe the same cannot or is not happening here? How art the mighty fallen, or falling. Let's be honest...how much "United" is left in the United States? Unlike the Civil War there is no Mason/Dixon line when your neighbor could be a slave owner because maga are mixed among us. I wonder if what is happening here now in reality is the final battle of the Civil War or the revenge of the South against the North since most of the maga states are in the south?

Will the last one out please turn off the lights.

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Page 562 of the House Bill!!! [View all] RoeVWade May 25 OP

Does being as unconstitutional as the poll tax matter? No, not in today's U.S.. We've gone backwards. Justice and access artemisia1 May 25 #1

The provision is unwise and should be defeated but its not an unconstitutional "poll tax" onenote May 25 #10

...the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances... Xipe Totec May 25 #12

Thanks. You raise a good point and I've modified my post accordingly. onenote May 25 #13

Look at Trump's Memorandum: "Ensuring the Enforcement of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65(c)" sop May 25 #2

EVERYTHING is transactional... GiqueCee May 25 #5

Yep, that's what's in the bill... their complaint about lawsuits is such noxious BS. These people LymphocyteLover May 25 #7

it's sick and fascist but OTOH, Federal courts haven't yet issued any contempt citations LymphocyteLover May 25 #3

Oh it's a big deal Tickle May 25 #4

I understand that. But again, the courts are simply not issuing contempt citations LymphocyteLover May 25 #8

And if they did rule contempt, who exactly would enforce it? paleotn May 25 #11

Civil contempt is self-enforcing liberalgunwilltravel May 25 #15

"And if they did rule contempt, who exactly would enforce it?" CaptainTruth May 25 #17

You might want to start looking for some faith, then... OldBaldy1701E May 26 #22

Buh bye RandiFan1290 May 29 #24

This provision, and probably many others, may run afoul of the "Byrd Rule" Klondike Kat May 25 #6

I wonder...at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire, were there those who grasped elocs May 25 #9

Hard to say since crystal balls are in such short supply. paleotn May 25 #14

and of course it is retroactive. Native May 25 #16

"If you aren't cheating, you're not trying." czarjak May 25 #18

Unprecedented my ass... 2naSalit May 25 #19

"Conservative" Dystopia. Happy to rule over embers if it hurts Liberals. BurnDoubt May 26 #20

This has nothing to do with the budget and should not be in a reconciliation bill! SunSeeker May 26 #21

so good markie May 26 #23