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carpetbagger

(5,492 posts)
22. But a long generation to get there.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:10 PM
May 2025

Ceaucescu was popular in the 1960s and 1970s. By 1989 he was in power for 25 years, communism and rationing, and he himself, were deeply unpopular and unpopular for a long time in a way that Trump isn't yet. He governed by secret police and quasi-legal arrest/prosecution, so a massacre was a sign of desperation, it happened when his personality cult, police powers, and goon squads has all failed him.

Trump's not there. He just won a marginally free election, after we already knew his character in government. The parts that were hinky (plutocratic influence, voter deregistration, etc) are in place, but media control is a tool that will keep a dictator viable at 30-35 percent real popularity.

If I had to bet (and I kind of am betting, I'm avoiding D.C. although I'll be in Maryland next month and my partner wants to see. D.C., I'm also planning on emigrating to Canada next year)... I think a shooting into a crowd would likely kill 20 people, maybe less. Likely just a big Kent State, something that the president's party survives and runs on with success, maybe like countless race massacres in America. In this case, I think it has Reichstag fire-type effects with consolidation of police power under Trump. Less likely but more concerning to me immediately is a Rwanda-scale national race riot, or a national Tulsa.

He became president twice bragging about being able to shoot people on 5th Avenue with impunity. I wish we were better people. We're not.

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What a hell of a wonderful idea. magicarpet May 2025 #1
We dweller May 2025 #2
Has Trump done a new order?! Mad_Machine76 May 2025 #3
With Hegseth at the helm........ BBbats May 2025 #4
Great way orangecrush May 2025 #5
What you seem to not understand is that if such an order were given to the military, MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #19
Wouldn't be the military - it would be ICE goons hired from 3%ers and Proud Boys hatrack May 2025 #20
That may be true, but what they would find out real fast and fatally, MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #21
Could happen here. Trump and his gang of fascist morons have already shown that they love killing. Doodley May 2025 #6
I wonder though if Romania had a devoted population of MadameButterfly May 2025 #11
I don't think that's an equivalent. carpetbagger May 2025 #7
I agree Kaleva May 2025 #15
It took a week orangecrush May 2025 #16
But a long generation to get there. carpetbagger May 2025 #22
I remember that. alfredo May 2025 #8
Martial Law is where they're headed. BurnDoubt May 2025 #9
December 25th, huh? Grokenstein May 2025 #10
A real War on Christmas oswaldactedalone May 2025 #12
And to all a good night. orangecrush May 2025 #17
Kent State Redux? no_hypocrisy May 2025 #13
Romania televised the firing squad. orangecrush May 2025 #18
It took 25 years for the Romanians to overthrow the Ceaușescus Kaleva May 2025 #14
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