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EarlG

(23,107 posts)
50. If we're addressing the candidates for 2028
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
May 2025

then I'll tell you that my personal preference is to find a candidate who is Good At Politics, and one of the things that makes you Good At Politics is how good you are at deflecting bullshit gotcha questions and flipping the conversation around to what you want to talk about. So I guess in that regard I am interested in how potential candidates are addressing this current furore, because I think it might be a good indicator of their ability to control the narrative, rather than bowing to someone else's narrative. Next time around we are going to need someone who is very, very good at controlling the narrative.

But to be clear, if primary candidates want to make rehashing the last election a central piece of their candidacy going forward, of course people will be permitted to support those candidates and that point of view on DU, because we will be having a primary, and that's when candidates and their supporters are going to be fighting and attacking each other and trying to win. With that in mind, if candidates who spend time rehashing the last election do get torn down for that here, it will be because it's an unpopular position. On the other hand, if a candidate who spends time rehashing the last election becomes the nominee, then DU will support that candidate.

I guess I simply don't agree that in this very specific situation, 2028 candidates who are out there in public saying, "This was terrible. This was a mistake. This was a very, no good, galactically terrible idea, and we shouldn't have done it," are somehow helping us to "avoid future mistakes." With two aging candidates both in decline, one being the incumbent president and the other being the previous president, both winning their primaries by enormous margins (although Biden actually did far better than Trump in that respect) -- and then one candidate having a massive stumble at a debate, and subsequently dropping out of the race at the last minute -- the 2024 election was a unique, unprecedented situation that will not be repeated in our lifetimes. So I feel like doing a public autopsy on Biden's political corpse isn't relevant to any future election -- it's just more likely to make people watching go, "Ew."

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F@#k 'em. sinkingfeeling May 2025 #1
I know. This really gets me. FalloutShelter May 2025 #29
Politico is garbage displacedvermoter May 2025 #2
The Biden/honesty about his health thing has been applegrove May 2025 #4
And the Trump blabbering about sharks and Arnold Palmer's displacedvermoter May 2025 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author displacedvermoter May 2025 #9
All the bs about Hillary Clinton's emails SocialDemocrat61 May 2025 #24
What a lot of white wash baloney. Biophilic May 2025 #3
Sounds like Politico is ginning up a fight int the DNC. Fuck Politico and those who end up buying into this fake thing. marble falls May 2025 #5
You don't think democrats want to know their leaders are on applegrove May 2025 #8
As Democrats we'd better all be on the same page as Joe Biden without a fucking hairpull. It's done and we're in the ... marble falls May 2025 #10
Not if that page is disrespecting a very good President. travelingthrulife May 19 #54
Who came up with this "Litmus Test for 2028 Contenders"? sop May 2025 #6
F Litmus Tests Starbeach May 2025 #39
And Democrats keep falling right in line to lap it up. Why? travelingthrulife May 19 #55
Yep M$M did uponit7771 May 19 #60
Funny, Republicans had no such litmus test when it came to Jan 6 newdeal2 May 2025 #11
They're going after Biden because he was reversing Reaganomics. yardwork May 2025 #12
That is a good reason for Democrats to say they softened applegrove May 2025 #16
Biden was functioning efficiently as president. yardwork May 2025 #19
Yes. But he acted aged. And that was not attractive applegrove May 2025 #21
In other words, "Vibes." Vibes cultivated by a press that hated Biden because he was 'boring' emulatorloo May 2025 #22
It wasn't just that he was boring. Self Esteem May 2025 #42
What does that even mean? It sounds ageist to me. n/t valleyrogue May 2025 #37
People say that Social Security/Medicare are the "third rail" Bettie May 2025 #28
I read that there's a tipping point when a society has too many ultra-wealthy people. yardwork May 2025 #31
And we definitely have ultra wealthy people Bettie May 2025 #33
In the meantime, a dictator and his minions mcar May 2025 #13
Politico catapulting the right wing PR story of the week Prairie Gates May 2025 #14
Indeed -- a litmus test entirely created by the media EarlG May 2025 #15
Thank you..... Lovie777 May 2025 #20
Well said. emulatorloo May 2025 #23
Part of our problem in 2024 was we spent a good part of the time telling ourselves to not believe are eyes. Renew Deal May 2025 #27
Literally nobody said that Biden won the debate Prairie Gates May 2025 #32
Here's one Renew Deal May 2025 #35
... Prairie Gates May 2025 #38
I think it was a series of cascading failures EarlG May 2025 #36
There's a difference between navel-gazing and being able to admit obvious things Sympthsical May 2025 #43
We played the hand we were dealt EarlG May 2025 #46
But doesn't that bother you? Sympthsical May 2025 #47
If we're addressing the candidates for 2028 EarlG May 2025 #50
Our current president is fascinated by the word "groceries," and LeftinOH May 2025 #17
OH, FUCK THIS SHIT. Tommy Carcetti May 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal May 2025 #25
That is an excuse. I will vote for no Democrat in any primary who attacks Biden Demsrule86 May 2025 #26
Biden's positive numbers were in the low 40s. They never went up. applegrove May 2025 #48
Ditto. W_HAMILTON May 2025 #49
Sadly, this will be Biden's legacy Fiendish Thingy May 2025 #30
Speak for yourself. Paladin May 19 #56
Let's see how his legacy is viewed in 10-20 years Fiendish Thingy May 19 #57
That's nonsense framing. Democrats don't think like that ecstatic May 2025 #34
This victim stuff has to stop, now! ananda May 2025 #40
I have other litmus tests. BannonsLiver May 2025 #41
HEY BIDEN-BASHERS usonian May 2025 #44
According to who? Jake Fucking Tapper? Jeff Bezos? Jesse Watters? Jeanine "Box Wine" Pirro? hatrack May 2025 #45
Contenders should say "Biden was a good President. End of story. I'm not taking sides but leaving it to historians." .nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #51
We need to stop acting like a bunch of rock band groupies. everyonematters May 2025 #52
Oh, for fuck's sake. What a crock. Scrivener7 May 2025 #53
It's quickly becoming my own litmus test for good-faith conversations. Torchlight May 19 #58
Sounds like bullshit to me Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 19 #59
This will be unpopular.... Xolodno May 19 #61
Every Democrat needs to be told DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME. We need to stop this madness NOW Hekate May 19 #62
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