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156. Insanity...

Tue May 13, 2025, 10:58 PM

May 13

A minority party with different people in the same number of seats is still the minority party in a winner take all system. Spend the $20MM to win new (more) seats. More seats means more wins on actual legislation. Do the purity thing when we hold the seats, not before.

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I think it would be a big mistake if the DNC got rid of David Hogg. [View all] kentuck May 13 OP

That is an understatement malaise May 13 #1

Agreed. MWLib May 13 #129

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe May 13 #151

Another unforced error by the DNC lostnfound May 14 #184

I agree! nt lark May 13 #2

K&R spanone May 13 #3

Totally agree 👍 Emile May 13 #4

He's a talent. bucolic_frolic May 13 #5

We need numbers. murielm99 May 13 #15

Coincidentally ... krkaufman May 13 #17

I stand by what I said. murielm99 May 13 #20

AND people who know something about politics and winning elections stopdiggin May 13 #65

I agree to a point dflprincess May 13 #34

Democratic Party can flip seats and replaces ineffective incumbents. PufPuf23 May 13 #163

Yep - hands off the CBC JustAnotherGen May 13 #41

Democrats run against Democrats ALL The Time. .. littlemissmartypants May 13 #60

this is about using 'party' apparatus (and funding) stopdiggin May 13 #71

Looks like some straight up bickering. ... littlemissmartypants May 13 #76

Incumbent democrats that are empty suits... FarPoint May 13 #63

Selective districts V850i May 13 #109

He is only proposing running against incumbents is safe districts. I agree 100%. If you are not fighting for the Pisces May 13 #159

Agree 100% onlyadream May 14 #183

Totally agree DownriverDem May 13 #140

We hear that every election. PufPuf23 May 13 #161

Because that works so well ... nt TBF May 13 #106

It did when AOC primaried a useless incumbent. Shipwack May 13 #130

That was my point - TBF May 14 #189

Oh, ok... :) nt Shipwack May 14 #192

I hope he teaches the old system new tricks. Because the old has had it chance. usaf-vet May 13 #112

I think that's the piece folks are missing - TBF May 14 #194

Agree. Railroading him out would be incredibly stupid. Maru Kitteh May 13 #6

Another own goal! Go team! Ponietz May 13 #7

Yes, David running Democrats against Democrats is an own goal bottomofthehill May 13 #27

It's an own goal either way get it? Ponietz May 13 #30

Why put old school Democrats back in who want to compromise and self-preserve? lees1975 May 13 #56

Very simple, that is not the way to take back anything bottomofthehill May 13 #58

that is the mantra. problem is, as often as it is repeated - it's not very convincing stopdiggin May 13 #74

Ah, baloney. lees1975 May 13 #148

again - a nice speech. "change!" "bold moves" "gridlock" "hanging on to their seats" stopdiggin May 13 #150

Exactly! Gimpyknee May 13 #167

Term limits is the DOGE approach to firing people: MadameButterfly May 14 #177

Term limits? Cirsium May 14 #193

Lol. That's what we've been doing, no? KPN May 13 #75

It's called a primary and it happens all the time. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #131

Big money donors timms139 May 13 #72

Agree !!!! Karadeniz May 13 #8

Agree Easterncedar May 13 #9

Exactly! EmmaLee E May 13 #57

He is the future and the OLD GUYS and GALs need to start realizing they have to start working with them. Fla Dem May 13 #10

If he is the future, let him put his name on the ballot in Florida bottomofthehill May 13 #29

Agreed - and don't forget - Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 13 #42

Absolutely, he has put his name on the ballot bottomofthehill May 13 #43

Or start with races like school boards where he would be a good fit. LisaM May 13 #49

Totally agree bottomofthehill May 13 #51

He hasn't lived in FL for many years Arazi May 13 #61

OK, I am with you, Trauma is real bottomofthehill May 13 #64

Do we like carpetbaggers now? Arazi May 13 #79

So we think it a good idea to follow a 25 year old bottomofthehill May 13 #86

I think he's proposing new ideas Arazi May 13 #88

What I am actually saying is that bottomofthehill May 13 #89

I think the current moment demands new strategy Arazi May 13 #95

Yeah, you tell those youngsters to get Bettie May 13 #99

Exactly. I'd rather have an old-school Democrat than a young woman that's all mouth and no action. Walleye May 13 #67

The older ones need to start training Linda ladeewolf May 13 #40

only one member in their 20s uponit7771 May 13 #101

I'm 82. I hope AOC runs against Schumer. Hogg says he doesn't want to run for public office. 3Hotdogs May 13 #11

You may like the idea of it but bottomofthehill May 13 #46

OK, Dan Goldman then tishaLA May 13 #142

I love that you think of Dan Goldman as a moderate. bottomofthehill May 13 #145

Yet, they probably will. They do not seem to have a long-term strategy to win; just a short term... Ol Janx Spirit May 13 #12

At some point those who oppose gun violence will outnumber NRA nuts IronLionZion May 13 #13

Would have thought the same re: Choice krkaufman May 13 #18

More young people turn 18 every day. Lots of potential new voters IronLionZion May 13 #24

Demographics are on our side now. Doesn't really do us any good. Walleye May 13 #69

I agree Puppyjive May 13 #14

I agree, and with the low approval rating of current democrats, its time for some changes sboatcar May 13 #39

Totally agree. He's a bridge to the youth vote, no matter how he presents his views. ancianita May 13 #16

Hard pass. Oopsie Daisy May 13 #19

He is part of a group already that raised millions JI7 May 13 #21

Someone needs to tell him that the object is to replace Republicans with Democrats!! Oopsie Daisy May 13 #113

Like hiring an exterminator for a rat problem and they think the job is to exterminate YOU! betsuni May 14 #170

I seen this post earlier. Blue Full Moon May 13 #22

Everyone needs to contact the DNC idahoblue May 13 #23

I used to agree with this sentiment Gingermolly May 13 #25

"brash, full of himself, shallow, and a bit of a grifter .. " stopdiggin May 13 #80

James Carville? Bernie? Gavin Newsom? Bill Clinton? Arazi May 13 #98

So - no cause for concern then? Gotcha! stopdiggin May 13 #127

Certainly cause for concern but anyone playing political games is "brash" Arazi May 13 #133

Agree. It shows they are not capable of negotiating a positive outcome. travelingthrulife May 13 #26

I think we need to give Kalyn Free a chance to be heard JustAnotherGen May 13 #28

Yes, I agree. pinkstarburst May 13 #31

In my opinion... kentuck May 13 #32

The DNC seems to be more interested in fighting Democrats than Trump and his Autumn May 13 #33

Also, I think the 29% approval rating for the Party... kentuck May 13 #35

One would think so but the status quo must be maintained. No matter what. nt Autumn May 13 #45

I seldom disagree with you... kentuck May 13 #48

Dems low approval rating is because so many Dems are attempting to maintain the Autumn May 13 #110

You've got that right! ReRe May 14 #171

They're doing nothing but simply banking on winning the House by default in '26 - but they might find a 29% approval Midwestern Democrat May 13 #155

Then that's something they have in common with Hogg-type progressives! W_HAMILTON May 13 #103

The DNC has nothing in common with any type of Progressive. Autumn May 13 #108

Yeah, bullshit. W_HAMILTON May 13 #116

I would argue it is actually that the US doesn't know what the left is. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #132

And Hillary, "Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen" Autumn May 14 #186

Yes, the redefinition of the word means anti-establishment populist "Us" versus the Democratic establishment "Them." betsuni May 14 #175

Or the Progressives see themselves as a separate part of the party Cuthbert Allgood May 14 #200

Yes ILikePie92 May 13 #36

We we need new thinking, in addition to new blood. Kid Berwyn May 13 #37

What are his qualifications? A victim of a mass shooting, an advocate JohnSJ May 13 #38

David Hogg is energizing and part of the future Wild blueberry May 13 #44

Is he really? Where were they in 2024? Listening to joe rogan? Where were these same demographics in JohnSJ May 13 #53

organize Paul-EM May 13 #47

Still think it was duplicitous of him to run for yorkster May 13 #50

Duplicitous is my issue with him. We are here because of divisiveness. More of it isn't a solution. live love laugh May 13 #122

I agree with you. OLDMDDEM May 13 #52

Agreed al bupp May 13 #54

The idea of being a party nominee for life, no matter how you perform, is ridiculous. Yes to Hogg! Doodley May 13 #55

Yeah, go ahead shove them out. It doesn't matter if they've been effective or not. They are old they gotta go Walleye May 13 #70

and that is the kind of shallow 'strategy' that many perceive (and oppose) stopdiggin May 13 #81

yes and whatever et tu May 13 #59

I totally agree... FarPoint May 13 #62

I agree 👍 TommieMommy May 13 #66

Narcissism Abundance77 May 13 #68

Post removed Post removed May 13 #73

On spot. It could kill us in '26! Gotta get the corporate money lovers out so we can get money out of our elections n/t Cheezoholic May 13 #78

I don't see how "getting money out of our elections" is possible for the foreseeable future. LauraInLA May 13 #87

No it won't. Oopsie Daisy May 13 #125

Don't you realize how hard he makes it to peer wearily over one's glasses? Orrex May 13 #77

This infighting does NOT serve the Democratic Party peggysue2 May 13 #82

Agree, thanks for the direct post. NT bcbink May 13 #83

Disagree Meowmee May 13 #84

Sorry, but David Hogg Mountainguy May 13 #85

Re-building the Democratic Party into what? It's a political party. betsuni May 13 #90

"Dems have abandoned men who just want to 'get laid and have fun,' " CaptainTruth May 13 #91

said a mouthful there. stopdiggin May 14 #180

He's probably more dangerous outside than he is in. Renew Deal May 13 #92

Hogg's recent comments are disturbing Cirsium May 13 #93

+1. That is a really, REALLY bad look. pretty toxic in fact. stopdiggin May 13 #128

Not sure Cirsium May 13 #137

sorry for any confusion. No, clearly Hogg is speaking directly off a Republican stopdiggin May 13 #143

Thanks Cirsium May 13 #144

Yes, instead of calling out the bs he is playing into it JI7 May 14 #187

What makes you think he'd lose the revote? nt SunSeeker May 13 #94

Fully agree! mzmolly May 13 #96

As a 71 year old white male.... WVreaper May 13 #97

It would be fair if they primaried every incumbent Kaleva May 13 #111

As I recall, there was zero support here at the time for primary opponents against Joe Biden's reelection MichMan May 14 #190

People tend to support primary challenges only in certain situations Kaleva May 14 #196

Which is why I disagree with you that every incumbent should be primaried MichMan May 14 #197

That was tongue in check Kaleva May 14 #198

Agreed uponit7771 May 13 #100

Big mistake. It echoes the major flubbing with dumping Joe Biden. That hurt Harris' chances badly. marble falls May 13 #102

If he stayed in, it would have eliminated Harris' chances. SunSeeker May 13 #105

How many votes did she get in the first round? questionseverything May 13 #123

Well exactly. Seems like Hogg will win the re-vote. SunSeeker May 13 #138

I think she is saying, she would win the woman slot? questionseverything May 13 #153

There are TWO seats available. If she gets one, there's still one for Hogg or Kenyatta. SunSeeker May 13 #166

Kenyatta did way better last time questionseverything May 14 #172

But did Kenyatta get more votes than Hogg? nt SunSeeker May 14 #173

Almost 100 more questionseverything May 14 #178

Kenyatta got 100 more votes than Hogg? SunSeeker May 14 #179

Kenyetta got 298 votes and hogg 214.5 votes questionseverything May 14 #182

completely agree! mike_c May 13 #104

I couldn't agree more. What they are doing looks dirty. He's not playing the game so they are taking him out Pisces May 13 #107

are they talking about doing that? barbtries May 13 #114

I agree OldDem1 May 13 #115

Hogg's situation aside, I do want to know why our leadership now insists on acting like fucking Karasu May 13 #117

We're acting like Republicans by allowing a Native American woman her due process... W_HAMILTON May 13 #119

I'm actually with you on that SPECIFIC issue, hence why I said I'm not defending Hogg specifically. Karasu May 13 #120

How many votes did she get in the first vote? questionseverything May 13 #124

Sets a bad precedent manicdem May 13 #118

I agree wholeheartedly. I was lambasted for saying this, but I think they should have made a point of LauraInLA May 13 #136

I'm not seeing much urgency at all MichMan May 13 #154

That's my point. This flawed election has now created a huge kerfuffle that will inevitably leave someone LauraInLA May 13 #165

I agree. aintitfunny May 13 #121

His marketing team should be fired. Festivito May 13 #126

And Harris was a communist. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #134

Yep Faux pas May 13 #135

K&R red dog 1 May 13 #139

The party rules need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote May 13 #141

Thank you for clearing this up Pompoy May 14 #174

ANYBODY B.See May 13 #146

david v goliath orchidlady May 13 #147

Completely agree. We NEED the youth input. nt Exp May 13 #149

He was pathetic in his appearance with Bill Maher Pompoy May 13 #152

Well... gotta agree with you there. B.See May 13 #158

Bravo! Yes to everything you said. He was very bad on an MSNBC segment Nixie May 13 #168

Insanity... OC375 May 13 #156

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 14 #195

I agree wendyb-NC May 13 #157

100% mahina May 13 #160

But the DNC has specialized in "pretty big mistakes" for quite a few years, no ? Jack Valentino May 13 #162

David Hogg doesn't need the DNC. The new Democratic party is going to be a grassroots effort. flashman13 May 13 #164

I Agree proud patriot May 13 #169

He may not be the right young leader. RandySF May 14 #176

Malcolm Kenyatta is only 34. The re-vote for the 2nd seat will be between Kenyatta and Hogg. nt SunSeeker May 14 #181

Again, the money is trying to take control. Don't let them. Mr.WeRP May 14 #185

Do you think Kalyn Free and Malcom Kenyatta are for billionaires? SunSeeker May 14 #199

I agree, but he can't fight other Democrats oldmanlynn May 14 #188

Can the Democratic Party walk and chew gum at the same time? lonely bird May 14 #191

Malcolm Kenyatta is on MSNBC now saying Hogg needs to stop Nixie May 14 #201