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Oopsie Daisy

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125. No it won't.

Tue May 13, 2025, 05:45 PM

May 13

It will say that we value experience and loyalty. It will say that we want to replace Republicans with Democrats, not Democrats with Democrats! What a waste of money, time and effort! Being a minority party with "different Democrats" does not benefit us AT ALL!! Bloodying-up incumbent Democrats (even in "safe" districts) just creates an opportunity for Republicans to step-in and seize the day from an incumbent who has no money left to run an effective and competitive campaign... or the Republican candidate can step in and roll over an inexperienced candidate who was lucky enough to win a primary, but lacks the experience needed to win in the general election. What will "kill us in the long run" (to use your words) is the mistaken belief that youth and inexperience is more valuable to the party than experience and loyalty.

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I think it would be a big mistake if the DNC got rid of David Hogg. [View all] kentuck May 13 OP

That is an understatement malaise May 13 #1

Agreed. MWLib May 13 #129

100+ InAbLuEsTaTe May 13 #151

Another unforced error by the DNC lostnfound May 14 #184

I agree! nt lark May 13 #2

K&R spanone May 13 #3

Totally agree 👍 Emile May 13 #4

He's a talent. bucolic_frolic May 13 #5

We need numbers. murielm99 May 13 #15

Coincidentally ... krkaufman May 13 #17

I stand by what I said. murielm99 May 13 #20

AND people who know something about politics and winning elections stopdiggin May 13 #65

I agree to a point dflprincess May 13 #34

Democratic Party can flip seats and replaces ineffective incumbents. PufPuf23 May 13 #163

Yep - hands off the CBC JustAnotherGen May 13 #41

Democrats run against Democrats ALL The Time. .. littlemissmartypants May 13 #60

this is about using 'party' apparatus (and funding) stopdiggin May 13 #71

Looks like some straight up bickering. ... littlemissmartypants May 13 #76

Incumbent democrats that are empty suits... FarPoint May 13 #63

Selective districts V850i May 13 #109

He is only proposing running against incumbents is safe districts. I agree 100%. If you are not fighting for the Pisces May 13 #159

Agree 100% onlyadream May 14 #183

Totally agree DownriverDem May 13 #140

We hear that every election. PufPuf23 May 13 #161

Because that works so well ... nt TBF May 13 #106

It did when AOC primaried a useless incumbent. Shipwack May 13 #130

That was my point - TBF May 14 #189

Oh, ok... :) nt Shipwack May 14 #192

I hope he teaches the old system new tricks. Because the old has had it chance. usaf-vet May 13 #112

I think that's the piece folks are missing - TBF May 14 #194

Agree. Railroading him out would be incredibly stupid. Maru Kitteh May 13 #6

Another own goal! Go team! Ponietz May 13 #7

Yes, David running Democrats against Democrats is an own goal bottomofthehill May 13 #27

It's an own goal either way get it? Ponietz May 13 #30

Why put old school Democrats back in who want to compromise and self-preserve? lees1975 May 13 #56

Very simple, that is not the way to take back anything bottomofthehill May 13 #58

that is the mantra. problem is, as often as it is repeated - it's not very convincing stopdiggin May 13 #74

Ah, baloney. lees1975 May 13 #148

again - a nice speech. "change!" "bold moves" "gridlock" "hanging on to their seats" stopdiggin May 13 #150

Exactly! Gimpyknee May 13 #167

Term limits is the DOGE approach to firing people: MadameButterfly May 14 #177

Term limits? Cirsium May 14 #193

Lol. That's what we've been doing, no? KPN May 13 #75

It's called a primary and it happens all the time. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #131

Big money donors timms139 May 13 #72

Agree !!!! Karadeniz May 13 #8

Agree Easterncedar May 13 #9

Exactly! EmmaLee E May 13 #57

He is the future and the OLD GUYS and GALs need to start realizing they have to start working with them. Fla Dem May 13 #10

If he is the future, let him put his name on the ballot in Florida bottomofthehill May 13 #29

Agreed - and don't forget - Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 13 #42

Absolutely, he has put his name on the ballot bottomofthehill May 13 #43

Or start with races like school boards where he would be a good fit. LisaM May 13 #49

Totally agree bottomofthehill May 13 #51

He hasn't lived in FL for many years Arazi May 13 #61

OK, I am with you, Trauma is real bottomofthehill May 13 #64

Do we like carpetbaggers now? Arazi May 13 #79

So we think it a good idea to follow a 25 year old bottomofthehill May 13 #86

I think he's proposing new ideas Arazi May 13 #88

What I am actually saying is that bottomofthehill May 13 #89

I think the current moment demands new strategy Arazi May 13 #95

Yeah, you tell those youngsters to get Bettie May 13 #99

Exactly. I'd rather have an old-school Democrat than a young woman that's all mouth and no action. Walleye May 13 #67

The older ones need to start training Linda ladeewolf May 13 #40

only one member in their 20s uponit7771 May 13 #101

I'm 82. I hope AOC runs against Schumer. Hogg says he doesn't want to run for public office. 3Hotdogs May 13 #11

You may like the idea of it but bottomofthehill May 13 #46

OK, Dan Goldman then tishaLA May 13 #142

I love that you think of Dan Goldman as a moderate. bottomofthehill May 13 #145

Yet, they probably will. They do not seem to have a long-term strategy to win; just a short term... Ol Janx Spirit May 13 #12

At some point those who oppose gun violence will outnumber NRA nuts IronLionZion May 13 #13

Would have thought the same re: Choice krkaufman May 13 #18

More young people turn 18 every day. Lots of potential new voters IronLionZion May 13 #24

Demographics are on our side now. Doesn't really do us any good. Walleye May 13 #69

I agree Puppyjive May 13 #14

I agree, and with the low approval rating of current democrats, its time for some changes sboatcar May 13 #39

Totally agree. He's a bridge to the youth vote, no matter how he presents his views. ancianita May 13 #16

Hard pass. Oopsie Daisy May 13 #19

He is part of a group already that raised millions JI7 May 13 #21

Someone needs to tell him that the object is to replace Republicans with Democrats!! Oopsie Daisy May 13 #113

Like hiring an exterminator for a rat problem and they think the job is to exterminate YOU! betsuni May 14 #170

I seen this post earlier. Blue Full Moon May 13 #22

Everyone needs to contact the DNC idahoblue May 13 #23

I used to agree with this sentiment Gingermolly May 13 #25

"brash, full of himself, shallow, and a bit of a grifter .. " stopdiggin May 13 #80

James Carville? Bernie? Gavin Newsom? Bill Clinton? Arazi May 13 #98

So - no cause for concern then? Gotcha! stopdiggin May 13 #127

Certainly cause for concern but anyone playing political games is "brash" Arazi May 13 #133

Agree. It shows they are not capable of negotiating a positive outcome. travelingthrulife May 13 #26

I think we need to give Kalyn Free a chance to be heard JustAnotherGen May 13 #28

Yes, I agree. pinkstarburst May 13 #31

In my opinion... kentuck May 13 #32

The DNC seems to be more interested in fighting Democrats than Trump and his Autumn May 13 #33

Also, I think the 29% approval rating for the Party... kentuck May 13 #35

One would think so but the status quo must be maintained. No matter what. nt Autumn May 13 #45

I seldom disagree with you... kentuck May 13 #48

Dems low approval rating is because so many Dems are attempting to maintain the Autumn May 13 #110

You've got that right! ReRe May 14 #171

They're doing nothing but simply banking on winning the House by default in '26 - but they might find a 29% approval Midwestern Democrat May 13 #155

Then that's something they have in common with Hogg-type progressives! W_HAMILTON May 13 #103

The DNC has nothing in common with any type of Progressive. Autumn May 13 #108

Yeah, bullshit. W_HAMILTON May 13 #116

I would argue it is actually that the US doesn't know what the left is. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #132

And Hillary, "Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen" Autumn May 14 #186

Yes, the redefinition of the word means anti-establishment populist "Us" versus the Democratic establishment "Them." betsuni May 14 #175

Or the Progressives see themselves as a separate part of the party Cuthbert Allgood May 14 #200

Yes ILikePie92 May 13 #36

We we need new thinking, in addition to new blood. Kid Berwyn May 13 #37

What are his qualifications? A victim of a mass shooting, an advocate JohnSJ May 13 #38

David Hogg is energizing and part of the future Wild blueberry May 13 #44

Is he really? Where were they in 2024? Listening to joe rogan? Where were these same demographics in JohnSJ May 13 #53

organize Paul-EM May 13 #47

Still think it was duplicitous of him to run for yorkster May 13 #50

Duplicitous is my issue with him. We are here because of divisiveness. More of it isn't a solution. live love laugh May 13 #122

I agree with you. OLDMDDEM May 13 #52

Agreed al bupp May 13 #54

The idea of being a party nominee for life, no matter how you perform, is ridiculous. Yes to Hogg! Doodley May 13 #55

Yeah, go ahead shove them out. It doesn't matter if they've been effective or not. They are old they gotta go Walleye May 13 #70

and that is the kind of shallow 'strategy' that many perceive (and oppose) stopdiggin May 13 #81

yes and whatever et tu May 13 #59

I totally agree... FarPoint May 13 #62

I agree 👍 TommieMommy May 13 #66

Narcissism Abundance77 May 13 #68

Post removed Post removed May 13 #73

On spot. It could kill us in '26! Gotta get the corporate money lovers out so we can get money out of our elections n/t Cheezoholic May 13 #78

I don't see how "getting money out of our elections" is possible for the foreseeable future. LauraInLA May 13 #87

No it won't. Oopsie Daisy May 13 #125

Don't you realize how hard he makes it to peer wearily over one's glasses? Orrex May 13 #77

This infighting does NOT serve the Democratic Party peggysue2 May 13 #82

Agree, thanks for the direct post. NT bcbink May 13 #83

Disagree Meowmee May 13 #84

Sorry, but David Hogg Mountainguy May 13 #85

Re-building the Democratic Party into what? It's a political party. betsuni May 13 #90

"Dems have abandoned men who just want to 'get laid and have fun,' " CaptainTruth May 13 #91

said a mouthful there. stopdiggin May 14 #180

He's probably more dangerous outside than he is in. Renew Deal May 13 #92

Hogg's recent comments are disturbing Cirsium May 13 #93

+1. That is a really, REALLY bad look. pretty toxic in fact. stopdiggin May 13 #128

Not sure Cirsium May 13 #137

sorry for any confusion. No, clearly Hogg is speaking directly off a Republican stopdiggin May 13 #143

Thanks Cirsium May 13 #144

Yes, instead of calling out the bs he is playing into it JI7 May 14 #187

What makes you think he'd lose the revote? nt SunSeeker May 13 #94

Fully agree! mzmolly May 13 #96

As a 71 year old white male.... WVreaper May 13 #97

It would be fair if they primaried every incumbent Kaleva May 13 #111

As I recall, there was zero support here at the time for primary opponents against Joe Biden's reelection MichMan May 14 #190

People tend to support primary challenges only in certain situations Kaleva May 14 #196

Which is why I disagree with you that every incumbent should be primaried MichMan May 14 #197

That was tongue in check Kaleva May 14 #198

Agreed uponit7771 May 13 #100

Big mistake. It echoes the major flubbing with dumping Joe Biden. That hurt Harris' chances badly. marble falls May 13 #102

If he stayed in, it would have eliminated Harris' chances. SunSeeker May 13 #105

How many votes did she get in the first round? questionseverything May 13 #123

Well exactly. Seems like Hogg will win the re-vote. SunSeeker May 13 #138

I think she is saying, she would win the woman slot? questionseverything May 13 #153

There are TWO seats available. If she gets one, there's still one for Hogg or Kenyatta. SunSeeker May 13 #166

Kenyatta did way better last time questionseverything May 14 #172

But did Kenyatta get more votes than Hogg? nt SunSeeker May 14 #173

Almost 100 more questionseverything May 14 #178

Kenyatta got 100 more votes than Hogg? SunSeeker May 14 #179

Kenyetta got 298 votes and hogg 214.5 votes questionseverything May 14 #182

completely agree! mike_c May 13 #104

I couldn't agree more. What they are doing looks dirty. He's not playing the game so they are taking him out Pisces May 13 #107

are they talking about doing that? barbtries May 13 #114

I agree OldDem1 May 13 #115

Hogg's situation aside, I do want to know why our leadership now insists on acting like fucking Karasu May 13 #117

We're acting like Republicans by allowing a Native American woman her due process... W_HAMILTON May 13 #119

I'm actually with you on that SPECIFIC issue, hence why I said I'm not defending Hogg specifically. Karasu May 13 #120

How many votes did she get in the first vote? questionseverything May 13 #124

Sets a bad precedent manicdem May 13 #118

I agree wholeheartedly. I was lambasted for saying this, but I think they should have made a point of LauraInLA May 13 #136

I'm not seeing much urgency at all MichMan May 13 #154

That's my point. This flawed election has now created a huge kerfuffle that will inevitably leave someone LauraInLA May 13 #165

I agree. aintitfunny May 13 #121

His marketing team should be fired. Festivito May 13 #126

And Harris was a communist. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #134

Yep Faux pas May 13 #135

K&R red dog 1 May 13 #139

The party rules need to be complied with LetMyPeopleVote May 13 #141

Thank you for clearing this up Pompoy May 14 #174

ANYBODY B.See May 13 #146

david v goliath orchidlady May 13 #147

Completely agree. We NEED the youth input. nt Exp May 13 #149

He was pathetic in his appearance with Bill Maher Pompoy May 13 #152

Well... gotta agree with you there. B.See May 13 #158

Bravo! Yes to everything you said. He was very bad on an MSNBC segment Nixie May 13 #168

Insanity... OC375 May 13 #156

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 14 #195

I agree wendyb-NC May 13 #157

100% mahina May 13 #160

But the DNC has specialized in "pretty big mistakes" for quite a few years, no ? Jack Valentino May 13 #162

David Hogg doesn't need the DNC. The new Democratic party is going to be a grassroots effort. flashman13 May 13 #164

I Agree proud patriot May 13 #169

He may not be the right young leader. RandySF May 14 #176

Malcolm Kenyatta is only 34. The re-vote for the 2nd seat will be between Kenyatta and Hogg. nt SunSeeker May 14 #181

Again, the money is trying to take control. Don't let them. Mr.WeRP May 14 #185

Do you think Kalyn Free and Malcom Kenyatta are for billionaires? SunSeeker May 14 #199

I agree, but he can't fight other Democrats oldmanlynn May 14 #188

Can the Democratic Party walk and chew gum at the same time? lonely bird May 14 #191

Malcolm Kenyatta is on MSNBC now saying Hogg needs to stop Nixie May 14 #201