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ancianita

(41,879 posts)
44. I will, thanks.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 03:08 PM
Dec 2022

Justice is not abstract. It is rule of law intended to both prevent and prosecute "loss, harm or damage" to humans. Of course the hardest recourse is for humans already born into unequal income classes and structures to afford to pay for their recourse. 10% of most law firms' budgets are set aside for pro bono work for that reason. And of course, given the size of our nation's problems, that's not enough; which is why there are huge legal orgs like the ACLU, NLG, and so many others.

Justice as concrete recourse has been structurally hobbled by politically motivated funding. It's been muddled by corporate insurgence into constitutional law. Yet justice is as essential to a strong society as is a military. Yet the two have always been funded unequally.

I don't have to make the case that " Everyone is equal under the law in America" when our Democratic leaders say it and make the case for it, and work to make it real all the time.

Just because the funding, pace, and outcomes aren't perfect, or to our liking, doesn't mean that when our leaders make the case for, or even SAY, " Everyone is equal under the law in America" that it's a lie. Neither does any history of failed justice prove that statement is a lie.

The LIE part is what bothers me. It's not just provocation. It's denigration of our elected leaders and Department of Justice who believe it, and work toward its concrete adherence as their calling.

We on DU must not denigrate the imperfections of rule of law as a lie perpetrated upon the People. If we don't "grow up" about what we call empowerment through justice, you're right -- we won't "grow up" about corporate capture, covid, ecosystem destruction or even envisioning the futures our descendants deserve.

But the thing about growing up is that it's not about 'getting the chance.'
It's about deciding to make the disciplined effort about what we call adult systems; deciding not to just "get a chance," but deciding to leave nothing to chance.

In other words, to make our own chance. That right there precludes energy draining namecalling, grievance airing and general FUD bitching. We often reference the "adults in the room" because we easily see people of the opposing party who refuse to grow up about all kinds of things -- like committing to truth, lifelong learning, how government and governing work to do the greatest good for the greatest number, supporting collective solutions to big system problems, etc.

Feel down, but know we're not out. Know that "no one is above the law" is daily proven true more than not. The daily court wins of millions upon millions of fraudulent money gained back to our covid and PPP budgets, the millions in monies returned across business frauds, all that's just the "making whole" part of enforcing rule of law.

Because of that concrete enforcement of justice the criminal element of scofflaws, outlaws and "aboves" keep learning the hard way that it's true.

In an imperfect democracy full of imperfect humans, I will err on the side of our elected officials and Department of Justice lawyers who believe it, work for it and literally, concretely, prove it every damn day.

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Actually It's Worse Than That The Roux Comes First Dec 2022 #1
Those and I would add nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #2
All the way to Berlin. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #5
Wow and yes, agreed nightwing1240 Dec 2022 #6
The American who let the Nazis rebuild Germany Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #40
I recommend The Brothers about the Dulles brothers if you haven't already read it. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #8
Kinzer's is an outstanding work. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #41
Thank you for the recommendation and the review. I'll definitely add The Devil's Chessboard Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #50
+1000 n/t MarcA Dec 2022 #24
New light on the subject... Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #43
I Was Seriously Negligent in Leaving Out Henry Ford The Roux Comes First Dec 2022 #56
If You're Rich or Connected modrepub Dec 2022 #3
"No one is above the law?" Gary 50 Dec 2022 #4
No American is above the law Farmer-Rick Dec 2022 #12
Really makes one wonder if Darwin was right about evolution. Cyrano Dec 2022 #15
What if we did something other than capitalism? I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2022 #54
Many countries evolved away from feudalism and slavery Farmer-Rick Dec 2022 #55
You're Reading The Wrong Threads SoCalDavidS Dec 2022 #7
That is what I thought too skydive forever Dec 2022 #11
In our country you are innocent until proven kairos12 Dec 2022 #9
+1 Emile Dec 2022 #10
Made me LOL. mnhtnbb Dec 2022 #16
It was hard to do, but I've come to terms with the fact that Trump will never be held accountable. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #13
We used to give to red states like fl, Ohio, and tx, in hopes that they would see the light childfreebychoice Dec 2022 #18
I still have some hope that Smith will indict him, but my confidence is low. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #32
We've heard he's in big trouble now and is about to be indicted. Kablooie Dec 2022 #14
Never thought Mueller would save us, and agree, t* will die at home, childfreebychoice Dec 2022 #19
There has always been a double standard of justice dlk Dec 2022 #17
It really sucks to have a sense of justice while, in reality, it rarely comes about Cyrano Dec 2022 #20
Agreed. n/t MarcA Dec 2022 #29
I've been scolded many times for observing that fact Orrex Dec 2022 #21
What. Think you're some kind of kid? ancianita Dec 2022 #27
I have had posts hidden for referring to "cheerleaders" Orrex Dec 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Dec 2022 #33
WTF does that even mean? Orrex Dec 2022 #37
Ah, I see. Now I see what you meant by scold. ancianita Dec 2022 #39
Don't FUD me, bro'. ancianita Dec 2022 #22
Of those groups charged with fines... Orrex Dec 2022 #23
Check the page links. It explains everything. Take the first one, for example... ancianita Dec 2022 #26
The OP engages in hyperbole, but the underlying point is the same Orrex Dec 2022 #30
No, it doesn't. It makes a claim. Only children engage in hyperbole about adult matters like LAW. ancianita Dec 2022 #31
I don't refuse to discuss it. Orrex Dec 2022 #36
You really should read post #5 and the links it provides. Cyrano Dec 2022 #42
I will, thanks. ancianita Dec 2022 #44
I admire your idealism, ancianita. Cyrano Dec 2022 #45
Then you don't understand a thing I've said. ancianita Dec 2022 #46
Oh. Okay. Cyrano Dec 2022 #47
I hear you, too. ancianita Dec 2022 #49
As long as trump's alive, there will be somebody above the law in this country. (nt) Paladin Dec 2022 #25
He will pay fines, lose lawsuits, maybe go bankrupt. MarcA Dec 2022 #34
Listen to Rachel Maddow's Podcast 'ULTRA'. Politics IS above the Law. Always has been. Nothing new. Tommymac Dec 2022 #35
Re ULTRA's lesson and "how We The People can mitigate shit like this in the end. Activism." ancianita Dec 2022 #38
The acceptance implicit in this title is a huge part of the reason Hortensis Dec 2022 #48
"they'd be in prison at this very moment." brooklynite Dec 2022 #51
If you believe "No one is above the law" you haven't paid attention. GoldandSilver Dec 2022 #52
The Banksters Run Free Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #53
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