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Ponietz

(3,745 posts)
Thu May 1, 2025, 07:40 PM May 1

90 Million People Didn't Vote

The Leopards Eating Faces Party would starve without non voters. It’s viability depends on non voters. Maybe Schumer’s “contrast” will occur when non voters realize their vote makes a difference and commit to performing their civic duty — but it may be too late if their faces get eaten. Next time Boomers are blamed or someone complains the Democratic Party is too centrist — show them this:

Age is also an important distinguishing factor between voters and non-voters. Non-voters in the 2024 election include significantly more younger Americans than 2024 voters. Americans ages 18-29 make up 28% of non-voters vs. 14% of voters and Americans 30-49 are 42% of non-voters vs. 27% of non-voters. Non-voters are less likely than voters to be older Americans: ages 50-64 (18% of non-voters vs. 29% of voters) and ages 65 or older (12% vs. 29%).

There is a pronounced racial divide between voters and non-voters; white Americans are the only racial group that is overrepresented among 2024 voters, while Black, Hispanic, AAPI, and multiracial Americans all accounted for lower percentages of 2024 voters than their representation in the U.S. population. More than seven in ten 2024 voters identify as white (72%), followed by 10% of voters who identify as Black, 10% as Hispanic, 5% as AAPI, and 1% as multiracial. On the other hand, less than half of 2024 non-voters identify as white (46%), while 28% are Hispanic, 16% are Black, 7% are AAPI, and 2% are multiracial.






https://www.prri.org/spotlight/breaking-down-the-differences-between-voters-and-non-voters-in-the-2024-election/]



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BootinUp

(49,831 posts)
1. Anyway you look at it, the D party was blamed
Thu May 1, 2025, 07:45 PM
May 1

For a lot of shit and that is what lost it for us. I am not saying it was justified.

magicarpet

(18,305 posts)
4. Really,.... fishing for voters in the MAGA cesspool,....
Thu May 1, 2025, 08:24 PM
May 1

..... will only bring toxic fish to the surface,... but these toxic fish still will not vote blue. So we are wasting our time.

The non-voters are not so deeply implanted or stubborn so they refuse to vote blue.

After Team trDUMP gets done - few people will think the Dems and the ReThugs are exactly the same - little to no difference. Winning over the non-voters should not be like pulling teeth or giving root canals.

We still need candidates with fire in the belly politicians. Milquetoast political candidates got us into this mess. Our approval polling indicates extreme dissatisfaction with the Demo party.

Ponietz

(3,745 posts)
6. Those non voters are going to wish they'd gotten off their asses
Fri May 2, 2025, 01:52 PM
May 2

The fish will be jumping into the boat before long.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,074 posts)
5. You gotta earn it.
Thu May 1, 2025, 08:28 PM
May 1

People who don't like Trump or the GOP don't OWE the Democratic Party anything. There's a difference between being a "big D" Democrat and a "small d" democrat. If the Party wants "small d" votes, it has to earn them. In 2024 it didn't. If you recall, Biden promised a vaguely progressive agenda in 2020 (free community college, minimum wage increase, child tax credit, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, Medicare expansion into dental, etc.), only to see such things never so much as introduced because of opposition from "moderate" Democratic Party members in the House. If you recall, Democrats had the majority in both Houses, and the Republicans had no say whatsoever. Come 2024, the Harris Campaign's response was to make only the vaguest promises (support for abortion rights without specifics on how, some sort of credit for first-time home buyers and not much else) while instead courting disaffected Republicans (as exemplified by everyone's favorite neocon and coal mining advocate, Liz Cheney). The voters response was to stay home. That was predictable - or should have been. If you want to attract voters to vote FOR you, you need to tell them precisely how you're going to make things better. The Harris Campaign didn't; they seemed to expect that everyone would vote AGAINST Trump. It didn't work. I seem to remember the 2016 election being much the same with a similar result.

Actions since the election by the Party's establishment politicians from Schumer to Nadler to Cortez Masto to Cuellar have demonstrated to anyone paying attention (which is probably some fraction of that 90 million) that nothing has changed. Moreover, the reaction of the Party establishment to David Hogg's suggestion that dead wood be replaced have been largely hostile, suggesting that the establishment thinks what "we" need is more of the same.

Given where the Party is right now, and I can't see the establishment politicians giving up, I wouldn't expect the number of non-voters to go down anytime soon, nor would I expect much support from the non-voting citizenry, because the Democratic Party is (for the most part) not earning anything. I'd expect the numbers of non-voters to grow.

electric_blue68

(21,493 posts)
10. Oh, pleeeze! With Such A STARK Contrast in front of their faces. C'mon!
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:17 PM
May 3

And Dems should be in every State reminding people of either what they've done, and what awful things they've prevented ftom happening by Repuglicans.

But his past election?! NO Excuses except extreme medical emergency, possibly extreme weather.

CTyankee

(66,234 posts)
12. being elderly, we don't take chances! We vote by mail. But I miss going to the polls and voting on Election Day!
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:59 PM
May 5

electric_blue68

(21,493 posts)
14. I had an early voting place 2+ blocks away so I went 2 or 3 days before Tues in case....
Wed May 7, 2025, 08:29 PM
May 7

something happened to me on the last day. Did early voting in '20, as well.

I miss the old voting metal booths with curtains, the little choices levers, and the very satisfying "ketchunck" when you pulled the big red lever to record your vote.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,074 posts)
13. Yeah, all those non-voters were WRONG!!! Where is their fealty?!?!?!?!?
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:54 PM
May 5

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Betcha they don't eat their vegetables either. Unforgivable. "We" need to tell them what they want, because it's good for them. Because they have freedom to choose between one party who wants an authoritarian oligarch and another who won't do anything about it. And they should bend the knee to the DNC. Spare the rod, spoil the voter, with freedom and democracy for all. Oh and also, too, Republicans are the spawn of Satan that "we" demand to work bipartisan-ly with in order to pass ANY legislation, even when "we" have the majority in both Houses and the Presidency. Because liberty and justice for all major donors.

I shouldn't worry about the future, though. I expect the Party to continue to do EXACTLY the same thing. What's doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result called again?
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Oh yeah, the Democratic Party establishment.

electric_blue68

(21,493 posts)
15. Oh, please, your snark is overdone....
Wed May 7, 2025, 08:59 PM
May 7

There are Dems who have, and are doing serious things, ffs!
I am for more of them doing more.

It's tricky, sometimes you have be bipartisan to get certain things done. Other times fight like hell!
There's room for some more firebrands, along with very knowledgeable Constitutional Scholar types (like ?Raskin).
I always want The Dems to do better policy wise when I think they aren't!

We are in such a frought situation!

Yes, those Non-voters who weren't Trumpers should have voted for Harris! NO *EXCUSES, Eff them!
(*except sudden medical crisis, serious accidents, possibly extreme family crisis)

As the saying goes:
A candidate is like a bus, you take the bus that gets you closest to you destination (better policies, changing bad laws, etc).

"Thanks" to them
the effing bus is off the paved road , on tricky up and down hills, getting to close to the cliffs at times!

We wouldn't BE in this predicament IF it wasn't for them.
It should have been all hands on deck keep Drumphf outta Office! Then we work on continuing improving more peoples lives!

58Sunliner

(5,777 posts)
7. I harp on this every election. This is such an important aspect of what is happening and how we got here. Apathy?
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:09 PM
May 2

Feeling powerless? We need a campaign that will create the belief that every persons' participation is crucial and matters.

Ponietz

(3,745 posts)
8. Ignorance, apathy, entitlement
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:26 PM
May 2

They don’t understand that every humane program, from cradle to grave — Snap, Head Start, School lunches, Pell grants, Fanny Mae,, Civil and Voting rights, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security —- and lots more, exists because of the hard work of Democrats. It’s an accomplishment we’ve kept these programs alive to now without their help. So sad they couldn’t be bothered.

somsai

(106 posts)
9. Careful what you wish for
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:40 PM
May 2

Trump's popular vote margin was relatively small. 1.4%. David Shor the Democratic polster, who is no slouch with numbers figures if everyone had voted Trump's margin would have been 4.8%.

We did very well in the 2022 mid terms a low turnout election.

Of course I'd not predict anything in 26 or 28. I would think Trump will have pissed off huge numbers of people, and we should do very well in 26, but this electorate remains very hard to predict.

Gum Logger

(93 posts)
11. Joe Biden was nominated to appeal to the mushy middle.
Sun May 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
May 4

In hind sight, nominating a non-white woman from California would result in 10% defections from 2020.

"I belong to no organised political party. I am a Democrat." wr

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