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TexasTowelie

(124,609 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:00 AM Yesterday

What Do Conservatives Actually Love About America? - Steve Shives



This political commentary critiques President Trump's response to a shooting involving an Afghan refugee, where he halted immigration from "third world countries" and made inflammatory statements about immigrants. The author argues that Trump and many conservatives don't genuinely love America because:

Main Arguments:

Scapegoating entire groups: Trump punished all Afghan refugees (including those who helped the U.S. military) based on one individual's crime, while white Americans never face collective suspicion for crimes committed by people who look like them.

Selective love of country: Conservatives claim to love America but show hostility toward large portions of its population (immigrants, minorities, refugees) and only embrace people "like them."

Rejection of history: Conservatives oppose teaching uncomfortable parts of American history (slavery, discrimination, indigenous genocide), preferring a sanitized version. The author cites conservative backlash to Ken Burns's American Revolution documentary as an example.

Loving an imaginary America: The author concludes that conservatives love an idealized, nostalgic concept of America rather than the real, diverse nation with its complex history.

Core message: True patriotism requires acknowledging both the good and bad aspects of your country and working to improve it, not fantasizing about an imaginary version that never existed.






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What Do Conservatives Actually Love About America? - Steve Shives (Original Post) TexasTowelie Yesterday OP
Spot on Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #1
repukes DO NOT BELIEVE IN AMERICA Skittles Yesterday #2
Huge K&R for Steve Shives, who actually tells it like it is! Martin Eden 22 hrs ago #3
For one thing... czarjak 20 hrs ago #4

Skittles

(168,830 posts)
2. repukes DO NOT BELIEVE IN AMERICA
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:12 AM
Yesterday

it's that obvious......and it's nothing new, it's always a variation of the LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT crowd (you know, entirely omitting the option of IMPROVEMENT so people other than straight white rich male assholes can LOVE it)

Martin Eden

(15,231 posts)
3. Huge K&R for Steve Shives, who actually tells it like it is!
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:19 AM
22 hrs ago

And thank you Texas Towlie, for sharing this and for listing the main arguments. If not for that, I probably wouldn't have watched.

Too many video threads have misleading or hyperbolic subject titles and are mostly a waste of time, but this was spot-on. Mr. Shives clearly and succinctly articulates much of my own thoughts on this matter far better than any prose I can write or say.

czarjak

(13,378 posts)
4. For one thing...
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:42 AM
20 hrs ago

Their god and guns give them rights to impose their beliefs on everyone else.

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