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Joyce Vance: This Is What Happens When Nobody Enforces the Law - America at a Crossroads
Former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance issues a stark warning about what happens when law enforcement operates without accountability. With reports of ICE and Border Patrol agents ignoring orders, using excessive force, and facing no internal discipline, Vance describes what she calls a “real travesty” for the rule of law in America.
In this interview, Vance explains how oversight inside the Department of Homeland Security has broken down, why qualified immunity shields too many federal agents, and what happens when the threat of punishment disappears.
📘 Guest: Joyce Vance
🎙️ Host: Patt Morrison
📅 Recorded October 2025