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Rhiannon12866

(243,354 posts)
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:17 AM Sep 6

Are We Going to War with Venezuela? (with David Frum) - Malcolm Nance



Malcolm Nance welcomes David Frum, The Atlantic's Senior Editor, to Black Man Spy.

The pair discuss the Jeffery Epstein press conference, Trump and Epstein's friendship and history, and the evolving QAnon movement. Plus, how Trump's tariffs are impacting the economy, Trump's D.C takeover and whether or not a war with Venezuela will occur. - 09/05/2025.

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Are We Going to War with Venezuela? (with David Frum) - Malcolm Nance (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Sep 6 OP
The attack on a boat of unknown identity The Wizard Sep 6 #1
And this convicted felon has no idea, he's been boasting about it since it happened Rhiannon12866 Sep 6 #2
That boat was Tiny MalcolmNance Sep 6 #4
They are saying that a cigarette boat with outboard motors is a threat to the mighty United States. Come on guys do bett Walleye Sep 6 #3
Blood sacrifice is a tradition among Republican Presidents. Midnight Writer Sep 6 #5

The Wizard

(13,394 posts)
1. The attack on a boat of unknown identity
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:33 AM
Sep 6

was an act of war against a sovereign government. They can make false accusations until the cows come home. Trump committed an act of war violating international law. Let Congress declare war as prescribed by the Constitution. The Trump cartel must be taken to task.

Rhiannon12866

(243,354 posts)
2. And this convicted felon has no idea, he's been boasting about it since it happened
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:41 AM
Sep 6

Did this boat even have enough fuel to make it to the U.S.? Yesterday we heard that Venezuelan jets were following a U.S. Navy vessel...

MalcolmNance

(8 posts)
4. That boat was Tiny
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 08:27 AM
Sep 6

Let me answer your question: "Do you know if that boat has enough fuel to get to the United States?"

Not at all. This Panga vessel was sporting x4 300HP Mercury outboard engines. They use 25-gallon fuel tanks. At the relatively low speed of 10kts, that vessel could only transit 165 miles. The closest US shore is Puerto Rico at 465 miles. That would require this vessel to refuel twice before even closing near US territory. The continental US is Key West at 1290 nm away from Venezuela. So the argument that it was headed to the USA is laughable. Please don't think of a word of it. A more likely scenario is that the vessel was transiting civilians and perhaps even a small supply of drugs to Trinidad and Tobago at 30kts.

Pangas and super pangas, like the one in the video, have been used for smuggling, especially in the four-engine high-speed configuration, but typically for the terminal leg of smuggling, such as from Mexico to the USA. Most smuggling occurs in the Pacific and uses single engines and maximum loads with maximum fuel loads.

There are more questions than answers on this one.

Walleye

(42,577 posts)
3. They are saying that a cigarette boat with outboard motors is a threat to the mighty United States. Come on guys do bett
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 07:49 AM
Sep 6

We allowed the Republicans to redefine national security till now it’s just petty crime. National security should not be invoked unless there is an existential threat to the United States, which there isn’t right now.

Midnight Writer

(24,741 posts)
5. Blood sacrifice is a tradition among Republican Presidents.
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 12:55 PM
Sep 6

Reagan had his Granada, HW Bush had Panama, W Bush had Iraq.

What is a Republican Administration without a dirty little war?

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