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hlthe2b

(111,418 posts)
1. well, I don't have much reason to doubt this portrayal of Mace and her hypocrisy/expedient betrayals...
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 5

Whether it is "THE" Anonymous or not, they certainly have the "theatrics" included that is attention-getting.

But, it will be the final irony if MTG remains the last one staying "true" to their original stand...

But those victims and the family of victims no longer living. Oh, my. Devastating to see how they are used as mere pawns over and over and over again.

red dog 1

(31,890 posts)
3. It doesn't matter if it's "THE" Anonymous or not. What's important is that Nancy Mace supports Cankles, despite knowing
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 08:27 PM
Sep 5

that he raped young girls at Epstein's parties.

Speaking of the victims, here's an interview with a lawyer who has represented several of Epstein's victims:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132287385

Wiz Imp

(7,373 posts)
4. Not remotely defending Mace
Fri Sep 5, 2025, 09:35 PM
Sep 5

But there has not been a single public accusation of Trump raping young girls at Epstein's parties. To this point, those accusations have been based on 100% pure speculation. We need to stay reality based.

red dog 1

(31,890 posts)
5. "There has not been a single public accusation of Trump raping young girls at Epstein's parties."??
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:26 PM
Sep 6

"To this point, those accusations have been based on 100% pure speculation."??

I don't think so.

There HAS been at least one "public" accusation of Trump raping a young girl at one of Epstein's parties in 1994.
The victim, Katie Johnson (not her real name), was 13 when the alleged rape took place.
Her first lawsuit against Trump & Epstein was filed in California in April, 2016, without an attorney to help her.

A judge dismissed the case in May that year, ruling that the complaint didn't raise valid claims under federal law, Politico reported at the time.

"Another version of the lawsuit was filed in June, but reportedly withdrawn months later.
A third version of the suit -- with the plaintiff going by the name Jane Doe -- was filed in September, 2016, accusing Trump of rape.
That suit was also dropped months later."
["Donald Trump, Katie Johnson Allegations: Everything We Know"]
(Newsweek, July 4, 2024)

The 3rd lawsuit included an eyewitness to the alleged rape who used the name "Tiffany Doe."
(Both Jane Doe and Tiffany Doe testified under oath, which meant that if they were lying, they would be guilty of perjury)

Here is Katie Johnson's full testimony in her lawsuit against Trump:

Wiz Imp

(7,373 posts)
6. I apologize. It was my understanding that accusation was not related to any "parties"
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 03:52 PM
Sep 6

I see now that the filing did mention parties, so I was wrong about that. However, there's an awful lot of reasons to doubt the authenticity of her claims.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

Numerous journalists, advocates and political operatives had attempted to get, or had been promised, in-person access to Johnson. These promises never panned out. Steve Baer, a conservative mega-donor whose extensive email contacts helped to push the claims, for example, told Jezebel that he never met the accuser in person, despite many attempts.

Only one outlet, the now defunct millennial-targeting site Revelist, scored any sort of interview with the accuser. In July 2016, after first being promised an in-person meeting by Meagher, Revelist's Emily Shugerman had to settle for a conference call that left her questioning whether Johnson really existed. "I don't know if the Katie Johnson I spoke to is the same girl who Trump allegedly raped in 1994, or if that girl even exists," she wrote.

To that end, a large factor inhibiting large-scale coverage of the Johnson claims was that journalists figured out that a former "Jerry Springer" producer with a history of trolling the media had been a key player in promoting them from their inception and played a role in crafting the initial California filing.

Julie K. Brown, the journalist who uncovered the federal government's plea deal with Epstein in 2008, pushed back on the notion that journalists had ignored the Johnson claims, writing on X that, "The woman just wouldn't talk, and her lawyer would not confirm she was even legit. … The address she gave on her first lawsuit was false. She was linked to political operatives at one point."
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