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Related: About this forumTrump Thinks He Can Get Around Due Process by Suspending Habeas Corpus? Federal Judges Disagree! - Glenn Kirschner
Donald Trump apparently thinks the Constitution is inconvenient, getting in the way of his fervent desire to deport anyone and everyone he wants out of the United States.
His latest unconstitutional scheme is to suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus, which enables people being confined by Trump's executive branch to challenge the legality of their detention.
Trump and his henchmen, guys like Stephen Miller, apparently think they can unilaterally suspend habeas corpus? The problem for them is the federal courts disagree, including Republican/conservative icon, the late Justice Antonin Scalia. - Glenn Kirschner - 05/12/2025.
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Trump Thinks He Can Get Around Due Process by Suspending Habeas Corpus? Federal Judges Disagree! - Glenn Kirschner (Original Post)
Rhiannon12866
May 12
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Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
LetMyPeopleVote
May 20
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LetMyPeopleVote
(163,559 posts)1. Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus
The homeland security secretary was asked to define habeas corpus. Her outrageously wrong answer was humiliating but it was also important.
It's tempting to laugh at Kristi Noemâs humiliating ignorance about the meaning of habeas corpus, but this isnât just some embarrassing gaffe.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-20T16:48:08.242Z
Given the scope of her powers, her cluelessness matters.
(And in a healthier environment, Noem would be forced to resign in embarrassment right about now.)
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kristi-noem-flunks-important-test-basic-meaning-habeas-corpus-rcna207982
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmbmmjkjk2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FM7Qndazh
.....In case this werent quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmdrjzm4k2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FlyrF0Vwh
The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful officials ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are actively looking at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.
Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldnt even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.
In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
Theres been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. Whats gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.
Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the governments power to detain people actually gives President Trump a constitutional right to conduct deportations.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmbmmjkjk2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FM7Qndazh
Link to tweet
.....In case this werent quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpmdrjzm4k2i?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FlyrF0Vwh
Link to tweet
The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful officials ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are actively looking at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.
Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldnt even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.
In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.
Rhiannon12866
(234,851 posts)2. Wow! Thank you! Great segment!

